I sure don't! I was wondering how everyone weighed their chams and I saw you had that kitchen scale in one of the pics! Now I know! I will have to try and measure him and get back with you on that. Yes, he is starting to get some colors but just recently. He does not flare up and get mad too often, he is a pretty nice cham but I tell you he does not want to stay in his cage and we have a heck of a time getting him back in once he is out! It will be fun to share pics of them as they get older. I guess we are the last bunch of Poncho's offspring. So how long would you say Leo is then? I will try and measure him tomorrow so we can see how close they are in size. Like I said he looks bigger in the picture. I was close up when I took it.