IS GIVING REPTIVITE WITH D.3 AND VIT.A EVERYDAY GOOD FOR THE DUSTING of my female v!?

shineru

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Vet recomended this and said it was fine to use as dusting, now i dont 100% agreed on this but what do you guys think?
 
heres a link to the pic of the bottle that i have been dusting my crickets for my vield chameleon
 
You can, but using a product like Rapashy ICU (all-in-one). It contains very small doses of D3 and Vit A that can be supplemented every day but not enough to cause over-supplementing.

I don't know about the product you point out but if the D3 isn't low enough it will cause issues, as well as the Vit A. Maybe someone else that is more familiar with this product can say something, but I have a feeling that it's not a good one to use every day.
 
NO! NO! NO! and NO!

This is a vitamin supplement that should only be given once or twice a month.
Twice a month may be pushing it.
Overdosing your cham on Vitamin A or on D3 can cause serious health issues.

Stop using it now. And don't use it again until a month from now.

You will need to find a PLAIN Calcium product (without D3 or vitamins) to use every day or so for dusting. And don't worry if it takes you a few days to get one. I think you would be better off with nothing for a few days rather than continue to overdose your baby with this for now.
Also find a Calcium Plus D3 for every other week.
That vitamin powder has the calcium and d3 with vitamins so on the day you dust with that you don't have to dust with anything else.

Or get one of the all-around dusters with such tiny amounts of the vitamins and d3 that it takes care of it all.
 
no! No! No! And no!

This is a vitamin supplement that should only be given once or twice a month.
Twice a month may be pushing it.
Overdosing your cham on vitamin a or on d3 can cause serious health issues.

Stop using it now. And don't use it again until a month from now.

You will need to find a plain calcium product (without d3 or vitamins) to use every day or so for dusting. And don't worry if it takes you a few days to get one. I think you would be better off with nothing for a few days rather than continue to overdose your baby with this for now.
Also find a calcium plus d3 for every other week.
That vitamin powder has the calcium and d3 with vitamins so on the day you dust with that you don't have to dust with anything else.

Or get one of the all-around dusters with such tiny amounts of the vitamins and d3 that it takes care of it all.
^^^^^ yes yes yes yes and yes
 
If you go to the link you posted and scroll down to the section about items frequently purchased together, that is the three supplements you need to be giving if you are going to go that route.

Plain calcium dusted on daily.
Ca + D3 every other week or once a month (opinions vary depending on how much natural sunlight you critter gets)
Reptivite once a month

Sorry if you thought I was yelling at you. I'm not. But, you need to stop giving that and make sure you give lots and lots of water to help flush any extra out of their system as quick as possible.
 
Vet recomended this and said it was fine to use as dusting, now i dont 100% agreed on this but what do you guys think?


Well, if you are feeding a variety of well gutloaded prey, daily supplement use with ANY brand is unnecessary. Certainly I would not dust daily.

That said, many people do frequently use all-in-one type products successfully. There is no need to over-react to the use of the Reptivite product any more than the use of Repashy.

Zoo med Reptivite contains:
Guaranteed Analysis (minimum amounts)Vitamins: Per Lb. (454 gm)Vitamin A (Fish Liver Oil) 100,000 I.U.Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol) 10,400 I.U.Vitamin E (dl-Alpha Tocopherol Acetate )100 I.U.Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 1400.00 mg.Folic Acid 48.00 Mg.Vitamin B1 (Thiamine HCl )75.20 mg.Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) 124.80 mg.Niacin 300.00 mg.Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine HCl) 30.40 mg.Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamine) 3040.00 mcg.Biotin 12,000.00 mcg.Pantothenic Acid (Dicalcium Pantothenate) 849.60 mg.Minerals and Electrolytes:Calcium (Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate)(21.2%) 96.00 gm.Phosphorus (Dicalcium Phosphate) (10.6%) 48.00 gm.Iodine (Kelp) (.0002%) 960.00 mcg.Iron (Ferrous Fumerate) (.045%) 200.00 mg.Magnesium (Oxide) (.26%) 1200.00 mg.Copper (Sulfate ) (.045%) 200.00 mg.Manganese (Carbonate) (.0077%) 35.20 mg.Sodium (Chloride) (1.63% )7400.00 mg.Zinc (Oxide) (.045%) 200.00 mg.Potassium (Chloride) (1.76% )8000.00 mg.Amino Acids: L-Glutamine 32.0 mg., L-Arginine 52.8 mg., Isoleucine 10.7 mg., Lysine 52.8 mg., L-Leucine 52.8 mg., L-Alanine 20.8 mg., L-Cystine 32.0 mg., L-Phenylalanine 10.7 mg., L-Serine 10.7 mg., L-Threonine 20.8 mg., L-Tryptophan 20.8 mg., L-Tyrosine 20.8 mg., L-Valine 20.8 mg., Glycine 42.7 mg., L-Methionine 20.8 mg., L-Aspartic Acid 52.8 mg., L-Glutamic Acid 148.8 mg., L-Histidine 10.7 mg.
INGREDIENTS: Dicalcium phosphate, Precipitated Calcium carbonate, Maltodextrins, Salt, Potassium chloride, Choline Bitartrate, Manganese Sulfate, Ascorbic Acid, L-Arginine, L-Lysine Monohydrochloride, a-Tocopherol Acetate, L-Valine, L-Isoleucine, L-Threonine, L-Glutamine, L-Alanine, L-Glutamic acid, Calcium pantothenate, L-Phenylalanine, Dried Kelp, L-Tyrosine, Lecithin, Ferrous fumerate, L-Cystine, L-Histidine, Glycine, DL-Methionin, L-serine, L-Aspartic Acid, Niacin, Copper Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement.

You can compare the above to this recently popular all-in-one
Repashy Calcium Plus
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein min. 2%, Crude Fat min. 0.2%, Crude Fat max. 0.6%, Crude Fiber max. 1%, Moisture max. 8%, Ash max. 35%, Calcium min. 17%, Calcium max. 20%, Phosphorus min. 0.6%, Vitamin E min. 2,000 IU/lb, Vitamin D min. 20,000 IU/lb, Vitamin A min. 200,000 IU/lb. Total Carotenoids min. 500 mg/lb.
INGREDIENTS: Calcium Carbonate, Dried Kelp, Cellulose (as carrier), Brewer’s Yeast, RoseHips, Calendula Flower, Marigold Flower Extract, Phaffia Rhodozyma Yeast, Paprika Extract, Spirulina Algae, Turmeric, Salt, Potassium Citrate, Magnesium Gluconate, Canthaxanthin, Calcium Propionate and Potassium Sorbate (as mold inhibitors), Natural Flavoring, Lecithin, Rosemary Extract and Mixed Tocopherols (as preservatives), Vitamins (Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D Supplement, Choline Chloride, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Beta Carotene, Pantothenic Acid, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B-12 Supplement).
 
did i mention she got broke rips? n this day 6th with thats dusting produvt yu think shell die?
 
What were you giving before if this is only day 6 of giving this? If you took her to the vet and found out that she has broken bones, some suggest upping the chameleons D3 so you might be fine using this but I would worry about her getting too much of the other vitamins and go to Ca + D3. My little guy was broken and the vet had me giving him liquid Ca daily and Ca + D3 every week.

But as SandraChameleon says, if other things are covering the nutrition needs of your little one you don't need the supplements so you should read all of her info on foods and gutloading your feeders.

It sounds like there is more going on than your original posting stated. It would be very helpful if you would fill out the help form. It will clue everyone in to how you take care of your critter and people are very helpful in helping you get everything set up right and makes life easier for you and your baby. Especially if there is other stuff going on. Please copy and paste this and fill in your answers...

Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.


Cage Info:

Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?


Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.


Pictures are helpful

And don't forget to include what all the vet had to say?

Sorry, didn't mean to scare you about the D3. You didn't say that she was broken or that this is only day 6. I thought that you had been giving it for quite some time.
 
Okay so this how is started when i first got my chameleon i never got to dust the crickets because everyone gaved me the wrong information since step 1. & so i spend all night reading what i could so i could learn more about her, i came to find out giving her crickets strait from theire store was fine with out dusting and keeping her in a 5 gagglon water tank was fine also and then when she grew keeping her in a 55 gallon tank was fine too -___- and well as you can see i got reall upset and ever since i got her i havent been non stop back and forth with the store supplys and what not so here was my first post thing for help and as you going to see the whole reason i started with the reptivite product was because A. I NEVER HAD DUSTED THE CRICKETS & B. She was showing sings of problems with her eyes that could have been cost caused of lack of Vit. A or D3 and so i thought using this was better then nothing and in some way i guees it worked.

Chameleon name: Tinny - species-&-sex- Female juvenille vield chameleon- 2-3 months. I bought her from petsmart on 4.25.2012 and since i was terrybly missinform about taking care of her , i had gotten recomended to put her in a 5gallon glass tank was ookay so by the second week i had when out and bought her the proper cage.

Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
when i first got my chameleon out her little box they had gven her in to me, she was the cutest thing i ever seen, she clime on me and was green to her brightest color, but now in days i have noticed she become nasty and started heishing and trying to bite me, i ofcorse back out as soon as i seen her turing to her native colors and than brown to black. i myself was verry disapointed and though that maybe it was because she hate when i spray water on her, this makes me think she holding some kind of crudge agaisnt for that ? either way few days after this it was time to clean her cage and well she started doing what she always does, but i some how got her out the cage and as soon as shes in my hands she turns greeen and calms down, now at this point im confuse, but for other reason i been taking her out to the shower and giving her a 20mint bath for her to drink water and shower she seem to love it, each time shes out and she even falls asleep in my hand, but now if i leave her too long in her cage she turns mad and turn this behaviour all over againg, im really cluest on what she wants at this point. Im thinkinq to just put a tree with her night light and everything next to me because to me she seem not to like her cage and enjoyes outside better wich is odd to me because i know they not suppost to be like that.

Feeding - Wax worm and crickets - What amount? i put 10 crickets and for treads i sometimes put in 5 waxworm or hand feed them to her - What is the schedule? crickets every day- crickets one every week or so- How are you gut-loading your feeders? i bought something call " Flunker's Orange cube completed crickets diet " ot say its food, water, vitamins & spriruluna. & i also feed them apples and w.e goods of fruits or vegiiies i got, i recently discover tho that iceburgs lettutes are bad for your crickets but atlaest i know now.

Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you
dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?

Thats honestly i had no clue about because everyone i asked at the store tould me if i just feed them raw potattos they going to be good for them -__- wich was wrong so no, no dusting or nothing at all.

Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how

Watering was another problem i been having on wich its cause because i though i could just spray the (fake) leafs with water and she'll be alrite as long as i keep doing that 3 imes a day and spray her and the leafs she should be okay, but no i was wrong about that too, that why as soon as i started noticing a problem wih her eyes how sometimes she had them clossed and she would like kinda sucked it in, and also notice some yellow poop mix with her regular poop and i started guving her 20min showers fors the pass 4 days or so, and she seems to love it but aside from that i but mayb 2 ice cubs 3 -4 times a day on top her cage and let them drip but im think about buying her a fottone or build her something better for her to drink.

long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?

with a home made bottle i had at home but planing to go buy a new one tonigh and yes i do see her drink.

Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings.

Black or brownish i have see it yellow once

Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?

No she hasnt , im actualying trying to find someone to set up an appointment for her to get checked out , but ever since i got her my things its i washed my hands thands use germx and put on latex gloves when ever i handel her or anything of hers.

History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to
others when trying to help you.

Im going to try to take a picture of her but i have noitced this like black circle under neath her eyes and that also kinda worrys me.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - REPTIBREEEZEE 16x16x20 Describe your cage - (Screen)

Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?

How about i just type you guy's everything it says on the receipt?

5.5" LAMP 14.99$
chamaleon Veieled 69.99 ( Its original price was 100$ Bucks but since i joyed in theire menbership the gave me a 30$ discount [=? -___- )
Exo-Terra Re 19.99
BEND-A-BRNCH 7.49
REP LIGHTS/H 9.99
ET AMAPALLO 5.99
FIR BARNK 5.99
ET AMAPALLO 5.99

On wich everything im returing becuause due to the basking light i had gotten recomeded to buy from the guy that worked in the store my lamp reached over 200 f. and it exploted so im pretty much returning that and everything else im keep my chameleon cage verry simple so her food doesnt hide or feed on her fecies.


Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?

I have a digital thing that i leave in her cage and it tells me how much the basking light its and right now i got her under the moon light bolt wich reachest a tempture of 80-90 f. also at night i sumtimes keep the a.c on but the guy tould me since the tempture light bolt i have is so high that it wouldnt be a problem? but now im starting to think hes wrong

Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?

Nope have nothing to measure humidity

Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?

No live plants just some fake ones

Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?

is about 5-6 ft offf the flooor and its next to my t.v and its pretty quite around where i live.

Location - Where are you geographically located?

New York City

Current Problem - Her eye's been eacting up sometimes she closses one eye and leave the other one open and so on , and other times i notice her rubing her eyes agaisnt the branchest and when i hold her she kinda sucked one of her eyes in and keep it clossed so thats worrying me, but other then that shes been drinking and pooping and eating fine. Well any information about her would be thankfull because i notice out of all animals out there . Theres not many study about them and pet shop dont know nothing aside from selling a wild animal. Thank you for all your time i hope the information helps i tryed to answer everything at my best thanks.
 
hi
Admittedly, I'm slightly confused, so please forgive me!

If you have not been using any calicum or other supplements to date, then yes you need to add that in ASAP. If you have been using the Reptivite every day, that's more than you really need. Instead start gutloading better, maybe buy a plain vitamin and phosphorous free calcium to use instead of the reptivite half the time. The way you are gutloading is not adequate. Waxworms are not a good thing to offer - they are not nutritious. She doesnt like you invading her territory, which is why she gets hissy at you when you are in her cage but less angry seeming once she is out of the cage. Your temperatures may be wrong /too high (Im having trouble understanding what you've typed - not sure you've said what the daytime basking temp is or the daytime coolest area temp is) and you've not indicated specifically what type of UVB light you are using. No light should be on at night.

Here are some links to information you really need to read, carefully and fully. I hope you find it all useful / informative:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/ryan-jarosek/119-new-arrival-bringing-home.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/syn/226-frequently-asked-questions.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/frequently-asked-questions-71620/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs...hameleons.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/74-feeders.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/92-hydration-importance.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/65-supplements.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/75-feeder-nutrition-gutloading.html
http://www.chameleonnews.com/
http://www.chameleonsonline.com/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/olimpia/573-chameleon-physiology-supplements.html

http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs...are-sheet.html
http://www.zorabellarose.com/Caresheet/VeiledChameleons.pdf
 
lols thanks your opinion & help? but the whole point about everything in here is her haveing broken rips and vet telling me not to stop dusting the crickets with that product & keep using it everyday on wich i extremly DONT i agreed on... i really would apreciated everyone focusing on that any other question will be surely answred , look im from east new york Brooklyn and i dont have this southern area for her but i try to provide her with my best, remaind you what you read was my first post.

Now, YES i know NO BASkin ligh at night
( Only reason it was used becaused it was recomended she wouldnt noitced the light and it will keep her warm at night because i keep my a.c on )

the first two weeks that i bought her wich was april 14 i did not dust the crickets untill i noticed eye problems and noticed it could have been cause of lack of vit. A or d3 and then i when out n bought her this gaved it to her about 4 times then i stoped, now after two weeks this whole ripcage thing i happend n thats when the vet said for me to give it to her thats going to be just fine because calcium would be the only thing that'll help her fix the BROKE RIPS..


Basking light im ruing one light bult and thats gives her everything she needs such as basking light and a uvb light.

tempture at hights on the cage is pulling 100-150
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CAGE WICH IS WHERE SHES ALWAYS IN UNLESS SHE REACHES MORE FOR THE TOP WHEN SHE COLD, ITS STAYS BTWN 85-95.

HUMIDITY- STAYS BTWN 40-70
& I MISST 3x A DAYS

Let me know if i answered all your Question's.


& TO EVERYONE ELSE REALLY! NEED AN EXPRESS ON THIS PRODUCT AND RIP CAGE'S PROBLEM, THE VET WHO SAID TO KEEP USING THIS SAID SHE WASNT AN REPTILE EXPERT BUT HAD THE KNEW HER THING OR TWO ABOUT THEM & Shes not acting like shes in pain shes moving around and shes fine

Thank you for everyones time in here much apreciated
 
& Also i agrred with you about the whole thing with in and out the cage thing but also i belive that the reason of this its cause some chameleons just arent ment for cages
 
Honestly, it's really tough to understand what you write. So forgive us if we don't get everything the first time.

You URGENTLY need to lower the temperature in her cage! 100-150*F is infernal! Especially for a female, she should only be at about 80-85*F, maximum, with the rest of the cage at room temperature. I'm surprised she hasn't just toppled over, completely cooked. What are you using to measure the temperature? Because a 50 degree difference is a pretty huge difference.
 
the reason the tempture its so high its cause off the a.c in the room and like i said the tempeture shes always in stay btwn 85-90

NOW...do yoU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME GIVING HER THE REPTIVITE?! Forgive me if im rude, but thats AN URGENT!! Thinq for her right now with her broken rips
 
Still, the top of the cage can't be warmer than 85*F. She needs the top of the cage to be warm and the bottom to be cold, as cold as the room, so she can choose at what gradient to be at. If the coolest she can get in the cage is in the 80's, it is still too warm. I run the AC as well (I live in Florida!) but my chameleons have been doing well for years with the basking spot at 85 and the rest of the cage at 70-75. Even if your house were at 60, she would be more than fine as long as the basking spot is at 85.

Now, if you're worried about the calcium, just get her plain, no D3 and no phosphorous calcium. You can safely use that every day without any worries at all. Although I guess you can still use the Reptivite, it seems if I'm reading the values correctly but I don't know much about this product.
 
but the whole point about everything in here is her haveing broken rips and vet telling me not to stop dusting the crickets with that product & keep using it everyday on wich i extremly DONT i agreed on

Since you have another thread related to your concern about broken ribs, people will hopefully respond to that there. This title of THIS thread is about Reptivite.

the reason the tempture its so high its cause off the a.c in the room and like i said the tempeture shes always in stay btwn 85-90 NOW...do yoU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME GIVING HER THE REPTIVITE?! Forgive me if im rude, but thats AN URGENT!! Thinq for her right now with her broken rips

You DO sound a bit rude, especially using all CAPS like that, but Im sure you dont mean to be.

I dont mean to be rude either :) but I have to say I ALREADY PROVIDED YOU WITH AN ANSWER regarding the Reptivite. I also provided you with links to additional information, so that you can understand in full. I suggest you perhaps READ THEM.

Olimpia has also answered you.

Here it is again:

The Reptivite is fine, but consider buying additionally a plain calicum powder that has no vitamins and no phosphorous. Use that instead of the Reptivite maybe about half the time. That would probably be better. But There are lots of factors to take into consideration, and if you READ the LINKS I provided, you'll learn more and then be able to tweak and adjust your supplement use in accordance with your particular needs.

Consider adding a dripper (ice cubes not a great plan, neither is a fountain). Please consider also making other adjustments, such as to gutloading and temperature. You are saying, I think, that the temp of 90F is in the middle where she stays most of the time. If the top of the cage is hotter, then that's too hot. The hottest part of the cage, in the basking area, should be no more than 90F at the very hottest. The AC outisde of the cage is irrelevant - what matters is the temp and humidity (which you do need to start measuring) etc inside of the cage, where the chameleon lives.
 
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Oh MANNN THANKs EVERYONE FOR FANALY ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS[=

right now she has started eating her owed plan not to long ago and i have an orchid in her cage as well with some other plants she likes to bite on and the orchid is her favor spot to be, is there any suggestions about the plans? and i was planing to put in a fugger machine for the humidity? i dont know i feel like im doing a crapy job at taking care of her so forgive me if i tend to spazz out on people here is just everyone opinon is so diffrent then everyone elses you know
 
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