laurie
Retired Moderator
If I was unfair and did not read your intentions correctly then I am sorry. As a moderator I do try to keep strong opinions to my self but in your case, I was not able to do so. I reacted to the not finding the chams interesting and what to do about that. Most of us a held captive just watching the behaviors and learning about chameleons for what they are.
I have issues with new people wanting to breed before they fully understand the chameleons they are caring for. I will buy adults at 14 or 15 months and not breed them for many more months until I am familiar with those chameleons, not just the species, but with the 2 chameleons I plan to breed. I like to consider myself a responsible keeper. My slam a pet stores is based on years of seeing how most - but not all - stores keep chams. Daily on this forum we see people go into petstores and come out wanting to rescue, not buy, but rescue the chameleons from the conditions and health issues caused by neglect while living at a pet store.
The fastest way to get me to react is wanting to breed prior to knowing what you are doing and having as a goal to sell the babies to petstores. We have breeders who deal with reptile stores, but they know who they are dealing with. We also have people who spend lots of time locating good homes for any babies they produce.
If your desire is to learn and become knowledgeable about these wonderful creatures, you will find this forum to be very supportive and helpful. If you are seen as using chameleons as disposable and need to work at being interested then - well not so much so.
Maybe we both need to start again. I said I would sound like a witch so you would understand that I was trying to say what I meant and knew it would sound harsh. If I had understood you correctly, and it seems I did not, I would still stand by every word I said. I do want to say again these are my opinions- not a representation of this forum.
I have issues with new people wanting to breed before they fully understand the chameleons they are caring for. I will buy adults at 14 or 15 months and not breed them for many more months until I am familiar with those chameleons, not just the species, but with the 2 chameleons I plan to breed. I like to consider myself a responsible keeper. My slam a pet stores is based on years of seeing how most - but not all - stores keep chams. Daily on this forum we see people go into petstores and come out wanting to rescue, not buy, but rescue the chameleons from the conditions and health issues caused by neglect while living at a pet store.
The fastest way to get me to react is wanting to breed prior to knowing what you are doing and having as a goal to sell the babies to petstores. We have breeders who deal with reptile stores, but they know who they are dealing with. We also have people who spend lots of time locating good homes for any babies they produce.
If your desire is to learn and become knowledgeable about these wonderful creatures, you will find this forum to be very supportive and helpful. If you are seen as using chameleons as disposable and need to work at being interested then - well not so much so.
Maybe we both need to start again. I said I would sound like a witch so you would understand that I was trying to say what I meant and knew it would sound harsh. If I had understood you correctly, and it seems I did not, I would still stand by every word I said. I do want to say again these are my opinions- not a representation of this forum.
