I think shes receptive now....now what?

[Dan]

Hello all!
So I have been wanting to breed my two panthers for some time now, but she hasnt been receptive. When I would show them to each other she would turn dark and gape her mouth and hiss and sway back and forth. However, I have recently noticed her white lateral line has been showing alot and she has been a lighter color...in general. I just showed them to each other again....she initially gaped and hissed, but quickly stopped. She didnt back away or anything, and her colors stayed light and she kept the white line.

Is this a sign that she is receptive?

If she is receptive, what would be my next step? I have never bread before and want to make sure that I do things correctly.

Thanks!
Dan

 

[jastate09]

Make sure they are muture enought to mate. The female should be at least a year old and a good weight.

 

[Dan]

0ld enough

Both are roughly about 3 years old.....and both are fully healthy.

 

[jastate09]

3 is pretty old to mate a female. Has she laid unfertile eggs before? If so how did she do?

 

[canzoman]

I heard you can breed Panthers as early as 8 months old.

 

[jastate09]

I heard you can breed Panthers as early as 8 months old.

Unless it's a really large female I wait until a year old and even if they are large I wait until 10 months old.

 

[Lancecham]

Show us a pic of the female. We will be able to tell you if she is receptive or not.

 

[Texas Panther Man]

So basically what your saying to the guy is you can only breed your female between the ages of 1yr and less than 3yrs old. Thats funny! lol Do you think male chams are asking for ID to be sure that female is over a yr and less than 3.

To the op if the female is of sound weight and healthy then go ahead and breed her. If shes flashing a salmon pink color in front of the male then shes most likely receptive. She will hold that color in his presence and wont turn black or flash black barring and gape. A good idea is to weigh her now before breeding her. You will get a good baseline weight for her. So you will know if shes gravid and how much weight shes gained from pregnancy. You will also get a pre gravid and post gravid weight so you will know how much weight she needs to put back on after laying. Thats what I like to do anyway...

 

[jastate09]

So basically what your saying to the guy is you can only breed your female between the ages of 1yr and less than 3yrs old. Thats funny! lol Do you think male chams are asking for ID to be sure that female is over a yr and less than 3.

To the op if the female is of sound weight and healthy then go ahead and breed her. If shes flashing a salmon pink color in front of the male then shes most likely receptive. She will hold that color in his presence and wont turn black or flash black barring and gape. A good idea is to weigh her now before breeding her. You will get a good baseline weight for her. So you will know if shes gravid and how much weight shes gained from pregnancy. You will also get a pre gravid and post gravid weight so you will know how much weight she needs to put back on after laying. Thats what I like to do anyway...

Well my chameleons weren't breed when to young or under weight nor when they got old. I would retire my females by 3 years old. I know it's different in the wild but my chams were in captivity and I care about their health. Most of my panther girls didn't make it much past 3 years anyway so I was not going to breed them late in life and possibably cause them to die earlier. Also when they are young the eggs take away the calcium that the female still needs when she's still growing.

 

[Texas Panther Man]

Chams grow at diff rates so its perfectly fine to breed before 1yr in most cases. Some arent ready until 1 yr i will acknowledge that. The 1 yr rule is good to use for newbie owners who dont know what to look for. If the female is healthy and hasnt been overbred in her past there no reason not to breed her. She will most likely be producing small infertile clutches anyway. Just dont overfeed her during gestation and she will produce a small fertile clutch.

 

[jannb]

I’m glad you guys brought this up. I just attended the Chameleon Symposium in Daytona and the first speaker Jim Nozaki talked about chameleon care and breeding and he said a female should weigh 74 grams before breeding. That would be a good size female panther. I normally tell people one year and hope she’s large enough by then because allot of people don’t have a scale.

 

[canzoman]

Yeah thats what I was getting at. I have read that it is ok to bred earlier than 1 year and know many people that have without any adverse results.

Of course the female needs to be healthy enough.