I don't rly know what to do....

Bunke

Bunke

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I don't know if you have seen my other post about my guys "mbd". I will get to the point.

He keeps falling, and is still uncoordinated. This is breaking my hearth. I don't know what to do atm. He's not getting any better. Should I end it? Should I keep going? I don't want him to be like this for the rest of his life. I don't even know how critical this is? Will he live a long life? Will he die in a couple of week? Will he ever get any better? So many questions and this is killing me. Only time when I'm relaxed is when he's sleeping. I would rly want someones opinion, tell me a story about your experience.

Thank you....:(
 
He needs energetic treatment that needs to be supplied by a vet. If he is beyond treatment, the vet will tell you and offer a humanitarian euthanasia.
 
djfishygillz said:
Go to the vet asap. Falling is a sign of severe illness.
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I've been at the vet two times. They could't tell what is could be, all signs pointed at mbd but his skeleton felt sturdy and considered my "care sheet" it's rly strange if it is mbd, even members here said so after looking at it.
 
BocaJan said:
He needs energetic treatment that needs to be supplied by a vet. If he is beyond treatment, the vet will tell you and offer a humanitarian euthanasia.
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No offense, but how do you know that he need "energetic treatment"?
 
I'm sorry you're having problems with your guy.
If he's falling the first thing I would do would be to make him a "hospital" cage. It should be low and long horizontally, vs. tall. It could be the screen cage he's in now but on its side with a towel on the new floor and very low, sturdy branches. If he is falling you don't want the fall to be more than a few inches, instead of feet. It'll keep him from get more injured if it is something like MBD.

I don't know any of his background so I can't form an opinion as to what else to do because I don't know what's wrong. What does your vet think he is suffering from?
 
Olimpia said:
I'm sorry you're having problems with your guy.
If he's falling the first thing I would do would be to make him a "hospital" cage. It should be low and long horizontally, vs. tall. It could be the screen cage he's in now but on its side with a towel on the new floor and very low, sturdy branches. If he is falling you don't want the fall to be more than a few inches, instead of feet. It'll keep him from get more injured if it is something like MBD.

I don't know any of his background so I can't form an opinion as to what else to do because I don't know what's wrong. What does your vet think he is suffering from?
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They don't know. They said i looked like cramps, but I just think it was the frist days cause he got freaked out. They gave me some d3 drops, I try to give it but it's rly hard cause he get all freaked out and angry. I've tried to inject into the feeders some times too.
 
you need x-rays to check the bone density and look for breaks and/or deformities to rule out mbd. it may be early on in the disease so just feeling the bones for sturdiness won't cut it.

there are also chams that have weird metabolisms just like people are different. if that is diego's problem, nutrition is very important. look up sandrachameleon's blogs and info on nutrition for both the cham and it's feeders. try giving him bites of safe fruits and veggies instead of just bugs. that made a HUGE difference for my little guy.

natural sunlight is the best thing to do also. bad time of year since it is cold but you can build a perch in a sunny window and put him there for as long as possible. glass blocks some uvb but my little sickie liked being in the sun anyway. i set up a plastic mesh board covered with a cotton towel with a few branches and leaves so i could move him to the sunniest windows. i put the board on a cookie sheet to catch water from dripper bottle hanging from the curtain and put his uvb and heat emitter hanging off the window shade so he didn't get chilly. gotta keep close eye on temps tho cuz the sunshine gets pretty warm.

water is important but even more when they are sick. i noticed bad water spots in one of your pics. what kind of water are you giving and spraying with? you should use filtered water or bottled water. the chlorine and other stuff like flouride in some of our drinking water systems is not good for them. reverse osmosis treated water is great and some of our grocery stores have dispensing machines with r.o. treated water. it is cheaper that way. if using bottled water, read the label because it may not be filtered or treated. i made that mistake too.

other stuff you don' think about that can make them very sick anywhere around them are smoking (tobacco or especially pot is very poisonous), aerosol sprays, cleaners, incense and/or perfumes and colognes. they have a very good sense of smell and breathe slowly so if they breathe something in it is more easily absorbed into their system.

if the vet says not mbd then why the increased d3 and how often? too much d3 and other vitamins can be just as dangerous as not enough. if a question of mbd increase the plain calcium by giving liquid as well as lightly dusting bugs daily. my sickie got increased d3 also but only once a week for the first month then every ten days for a month.

and you might try getting a new uvb bulb unless you have a meter that can tell you it is working right. some bulbs, even brand new, may not be putting out the right amount of uvb. and, from some of diego's behavior, he acts like he wants more uvb. and, the linear bulbs (long and skinny) put out the uvb in a wider area than the cfl bulbs. either way, he should be able to bask closer than 6 inches from the bulb for max absorbtion.

i'm keeping my fingers crossed that you and diego figure this out and have a long relationship. :)
 
I just got him new linear lights about 3 weeks ago so they should atleast do something good. The spots you saw is not from water. They are from the calcium powder when I dusted ff's when I just got him. When I had dusted them I had to shake them out on the plants from the cup and sometimes there was some powder left over that came with.

I got the d3 calcium drops just to see if it made any different, since they didn't know what it could be.

And I don't smoke anything so it shouldn't be anything like that.

I don't know if this has anything to do with it but I just came to think of that this started a short time after he got him new umbrella plant. He's not eating it and I think is should be safe. But is there any umbrella plants that could cause this in any way? I will post a pic of it in a few minutes.
 
http://imgur.com/a/lyGoO#0

Here's a few pic. Sorry I corrected you. I now see some small spots on the plants, but the one you saw is still from the powder. I live in Sweden and we got really high quality water, and I know that there's still alot of people who use tap water and have been doing it for many years and never had any problem. So it sounds strange to me :/
 
I would set up a hospital enclosure also. This is the cham that was biting his own tail, right? I thought he was doing better.:( I don't think MBD is the issue, but I don't have a good answer. I almost want to say he is just having seizures. Has anyone known reptiles to have them? There could be something (a growth or pressure on the spine) that could be causing the reaction. Not sure though. Sorry to hear he is still not doing well. :( Keeping him in my prayers!
 
I second setting up a special enclosure for him. I also think you should get some x-rays to check out the bone density.
 
I have nothing to add except to send my sympathetic "poor little guy"...and keep my fingers crossed that you both overcome the problem. Wishing you good luck.
 
Thanks you guys. I would say he's got some better control than he did for some time ago.
Yes this is the fuy who bited his own tail, only happened one time though. I guess all I can do atm is to keep giving him food and water and keep taking care of him as I've been doing since the start :-\ maybe should get him an x-Ray, I dont know yet.

Wrote this from my phone, Sorry about the grammatik.
 
From what I can see ( im not a experienced keeper of panthers) I don't see any mbd his legs seem fine I don't know what else to say besides just keep taking care of him and im sure he will get better.
 
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