Husbandry Upgrade

BugMunch

New Member
I upgraded my enclosure to a 2 x 2 x 4, and added the correct bulbs, got a homemade feeder and dripper installed, and added some live plants(I will get some more for up top, maybe some ivy plants?). Please let me know how it looks(for now) and if I've forgotten anything.... thanks!
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Rlc1994

Chameleon Enthusiast
I second on adding more horizontal branches/foliage closer to the uvb and basking area. Also I noticed your little guy hanging upside down under the lights this is typical behavior for young chameleons. I’m pointing this out because I’d suggest finding a way to raise your basking light so it’s not sitting directly on the screentop. Chances of burning him with it sitting directly on the screen. How are you measuring your temps and humidity I didnt notice any gauges in the pictures?
 

BugMunch

New Member
I second on adding more horizontal branches/foliage closer to the uvb and basking area. Also I noticed your little guy hanging upside down under the lights this is typical behavior for young chameleons. I’m pointing this out because I’d suggest finding a way to raise your basking light so it’s not sitting directly on the screentop. Chances of burning him with it sitting directly on the screen. How are you measuring your temps and humidity I didnt notice any gauges in the pictures?
I have a temp gun for measuring the temps throughout the enclosure, haven't gotten a gauge for humidity yet.
 

Thehippie

Chameleon Enthusiast
I have some wooden dowels I was going to use... Would that be ok, or are branches safer?
wooden dowels can be very smooth and slippery, i suggest using branches because its better for the chameleons feet to have different diameter branches and different textures.
 

JuniorC

Member
I upgraded my enclosure to a 2 x 2 x 4, and added the correct bulbs, got a homemade feeder and dripper installed, and added some live plants(I will get some more for up top, maybe some ivy plants?). Please let me know how it looks(for now) and if I've forgotten anything.... thanks! View attachment 258457View attachment 258458View attachment 258457View attachment 258458
Really like your custom feeder. Gonna have to steal your idea lol can you post a picture of your dripper?
 

Cordawayconstruction

Established Member
I believe I have heard ivy is poisonous to chams. Here is a list of Cham safe plants.

https://flchams.com/chameleon-safe-plant-list/
I'd skip the ivy and opt for a golden pothos or wandering jew if the vine effect is what you're going after. My pothos was a very slow grower in my enclosure tho, even with an Arcadia quad t5 honwith plant bulb in it. The wandering jew however, thrived. The with the wandering jew you have to go in and guis the different shoots in the direction you want them to. If you wait too long they get knotted up and tend to snap when moving em.
 

cyberlocc

Chameleon Enthusiast
I believe I have heard ivy is poisonous to chams. Here is a list of Cham safe plants.

https://flchams.com/chameleon-safe-plant-list/
I think this is overblown. I use to be a firm proponent to using Ivy as well.

Tons of people have their sticks on ivy diets with no effects to Chams. Ivy is toxic for the same reason that Pothos is, English Ivy, Devil's Ivy (Pothos), both should be fine.
 

Lennoncham

Chameleon Enthusiast
I think this is overblown. I use to be a firm proponent to using Ivy as well.

Tons of people have their sticks on ivy diets with no effects to Chams. Ivy is toxic for the same reason that Pothos is, English Ivy, Devil's Ivy (Pothos), both should be fine.
ya I tend to take the poisonous plants thing with a grain of salt since the data is more for cats and dogs.

you know way more about plants then I do. I believe they are considered toxic because they are in the nightshade family? I could be way wrong on this.
 

cyberlocc

Chameleon Enthusiast
ya I tend to take the poisonous plants thing with a grain of salt since the data is more for cats and dogs.

you know way more about plants then I do. I believe they are considered toxic because they are in the nightshade family? I could be way wrong on this.
No, nightshade is defiantly 100% poison, do not use nightshade. Nightshade produces harmful alkaloids, as well as Nicotine. All Nightshade produces both, Nicotine even is found in Tomatoes, and Egg Plants. A single Drop, of pure concentrated nicotine will stop a humans heart in minutes, dont even need to be consumed, it can soak into the skin and cause your heart to stop.

The fear from Pothos is Oxaltes, which are a calcium blocker. Ivy has something else going on, some kind of irritant, that can cause itching in humans and upset stomach in animals.

However, as you said, that is based on Cats and Dogs, I have always heard that Birds are the best closest to reptiles in matters such as these. Birds have no toxic reaction to Ivy. I still dont trust that, however lots of folks, feed their stick insects straight English Ivy, and feed those to their chams with no ill effects. So I think its probably fine to have Ivy, as long as the Chameleon in question isn't going to munch it down. If you notice a skin irritation issue, where the cham avoids touching the ivy, or going near it, then remove it.
 
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