How big should a 3-4 month old Veiled Chameleon be?

[ChameleonRave]

my exact thought too! i found some that i got a while back reptivite w/o d3 and i have d3 just need multivitamin so i will get that tomorrow morning i want to either build or buy a better cage for him and get new lighting i hate the compact top i can used a long tube light. D:

 

[Thompson]

Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care? about 2 months
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? whenever i put him in a plant to free range or when i have to clean the cage
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders? small crickets, dubias, occasional mealworm, everday since he is young. i use potatoes, carrots and apples.Gutload with a little more variety. Romain lettuce, oranges etc..
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? reptivite, and t-rex calcium with phosphorus w/d3 i give him reg. calcium ever other feeding. and d3 twice a monthI really don't know anything about those brand but many people use repcal brand and sticky tounge farm for their multivitamin supplement. I would go get those when you get the supplements.
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? i spray his cage down thouroughly 3-4 times a day and have a constant dripper. yes i see my cham drink. and i mist for atleast 3 min. each time.The drippper shouldn't run constant throughout the day. You want the cage to clean out so leave it on for only about 5 mins about 2x a day.
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? he is a solid green some more colours slowly developing, his fecies is perfectly fine and same with urate it is very white. he has never has been tested for parasites.
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
none.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? he is in a glass/screen combo. 12"x12"x18" You should get a screen cage and when my chams were 3 months I their cage was 20”x16”x16”
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? exo terra rainforest 5.0 and for 12 hrs. a day.Get a zoo med 5.0 reptisun linear uvb bulb. What time do you turn the lights on and off?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps? his temp is around 75-80. 80 for basking temp.Should be 85 degrees for basking temp. How are you monitering these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity? i have a hygrometer and it is usually around 60-80% i mist the cage to keep up humidity.
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? i am using pothos and a spider plant mixed with fake plants.
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? he is in my bedroom away from the window. and the ac. is across the room. he is in a low traffic area. it is approx. 4-5 high off the ground.
Location - Where are you geographically located? Watertown, SD

 

[Thompson]

my exact thought too! i found some that i got a while back reptivite w/o d3 and i have d3 just need multivitamin so i will get that tomorrow morning i want to either build or buy a better cage for him and get new lighting i hate the compact top i can used a long tube light. D:

You need a caclium supplement to without the d3. Do you use a linear uvb bulb?

 

[ChameleonRave]

Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care? about 2 months
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? whenever i put him in a plant to free range or when i have to clean the cage
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders? small crickets, dubias, occasional mealworm, everday since he is young. i use potatoes, carrots and apples.Gutload with a little more variety. Romain lettuce, oranges etc..
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? reptivite, and t-rex calcium with phosphorus w/d3 i give him reg. calcium ever other feeding. and d3 twice a monthI really don't know anything about those brand but many people use repcal brand and sticky tounge farm for their multivitamin supplement. I would go get those when you get the supplements.
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? i spray his cage down thouroughly 3-4 times a day and have a constant dripper. yes i see my cham drink. and i mist for atleast 3 min. each time.The drippper shouldn't run constant throughout the day. You want the cage to clean out so leave it on for only about 5 mins about 2x a day.
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? he is a solid green some more colours slowly developing, his fecies is perfectly fine and same with urate it is very white. he has never has been tested for parasites.
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
none.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? he is in a glass/screen combo. 12"x12"x18" You should get a screen cage and when my chams were 3 months I their cage was 20”x16”x16”
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? exo terra rainforest 5.0 and for 12 hrs. a day.Get a zoo med 5.0 reptisun linear uvb bulb. What time do you turn the lights on and off?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps? his temp is around 75-80. 80 for basking temp.Should be 85 degrees for basking temp. How are you monitering these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity? i have a hygrometer and it is usually around 60-80% i mist the cage to keep up humidity.
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? i am using pothos and a spider plant mixed with fake plants.
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? he is in my bedroom away from the window. and the ac. is across the room. he is in a low traffic area. it is approx. 4-5 high off the ground.
Location - Where are you geographically located? Watertown, SD

i have the bulb on from 8-8 and i use a temp gauge in the terrarium. I can't get those products at the local petshop since she hardly orders stuff for my cham. i also plan on getting or building a new cage i found a very nice one on craigslist for 15 bucks so i will be checking that out. and i will be getting more food for gutloading. too. the species is a male veiled chameleon. and has been in the cage since i got the cham. since he was so tiny and it was cold in my area when i purchased him i thought it would help for humidity. i have the coil bulb which is a mistake so i want to get a dif. one and a dif. topper and setup. too.

 

[ChameleonRave]

You need a caclium supplement to without the d3. Do you use a linear uvb bulb?

i just found calcium supplement w/o d3 it was the reptivite. i read through the ingerdiants.

 

[elrojo]

I stay away from those compacts. I've had entire clutches of beardies lose their eyesight from faulty bulbs. They may have fixed that problem, but until I hear otherwise, I consider them potentially dangerous. Sad part is, this happened with two different brands ('Zilla and ZooMed, if memory serves).

 

[ChameleonRave]

I stay away from those compacts. I've had entire clutches of beardies lose their eyesight from faulty bulbs. They may have fixed that problem, but until I hear otherwise, I consider them potentially dangerous. Sad part is, this happened with two different brands ('Zilla and ZooMed, if memory serves).

oh wow! I have Exo Terra its the Rainforest Kit, so i just bought the bulb... I plan on buying a new cage this weekend hopefully with lights too! and new plants! vitamins and more food

 

[Syn]

Zac,

I'm going to type this post with the chameleon's best interests in mind.

Please get your act together with your current chameleon, and do not take under any more responsibility with another chameleon or pet until you have the care of your current chameleon up to standards. I know you are trying with your chameleon, it's obvious. However, with all of the threads you've been making in the past it seems you have taken on a little too much responsibility.

I really hope that the situation changes soon. I don't want to see the chameleon you currently have get into any worse shape. I'm really glad to see that you are considering taking him to the vet and that you will be purchasing items that will benefit you and your chameleon.

Well, I'd be we are all looking forward to pictures of the updated cage once you go and get everything bought, and per chance you go to the vet, their opinion. Be sure you get to a qualified herp vet, not an "exotics" vet.

 

[Thompson]

i have the bulb on from 8-8 and i use a temp gauge in the terrarium. I can't get those products at the local petshop since she hardly orders stuff for my cham. i also plan on getting or building a new cage i found a very nice one on craigslist for 15 bucks so i will be checking that out. and i will be getting more food for gutloading. too. the species is a male veiled chameleon. and has been in the cage since i got the cham. since he was so tiny and it was cold in my area when i purchased him i thought it would help for humidity. i have the coil bulb which is a mistake so i want to get a dif. one and a dif. topper and setup. too.

You need to fix all of these things fast. If you leave that coil bulb in for any longer you will risk your cham going blind. Just get the repcal brand calcium, you can't go wrong with that. Get ready to spend a lot of money fixing all your problems lol.

 

[ChameleonRave]

Zac,

I'm going to type this post with the chameleon's best interests in mind.

Please get your act together with your current chameleon, and do not take under any more responsibility with another chameleon or pet until you have the care of your current chameleon up to standards. I know you are trying with your chameleon, it's obvious. However, with all of the threads you've been making in the past it seems you have taken on a little too much responsibility.

I really hope that the situation changes soon. I don't want to see the chameleon you currently have get into any worse shape. I'm really glad to see that you are considering taking him to the vet and that you will be purchasing items that will benefit you and your chameleon.

Well, I'd be we are all looking forward to pictures of the updated cage once you go and get everything bought, and per chance you go to the vet, their opinion. Be sure you get to a qualified herp vet, not an "exotics" vet.

thanks so much for your concerne but i don't plan on getting anymore animals since i am moving soon. I plan on hopefully getting new supplies and everything else that can meet the requirements. I hope to take him to the vet but that is always up to my mom. she doesn't think he has any problems but she honestly knows nothing about my animals.
thanks again syn

 

[ChameleonRave]

You need to fix all of these things fast. If you leave that coil bulb in for any longer you will risk your cham going blind. Just get the repcal brand calcium, you can't go wrong with that. Get ready to spend a lot of money fixing all your problems lol.

alrighty! i will be going to get a new bulb tomorrow and hopefully order my things i need this week

 

[Thompson]

Well educate her. I had to do that with my mom and now she knows when there is a problem with my cham we have to take them to the vet.

 

[ChameleonRave]

also just until i do get my new cage? can i divide up Delilahs in the middle and block of the middle in the bottom so they don't see eachother? just until i get the new cage?

 

[Syn]

thanks so much for your concerne but i don't plan on getting anymore animals since i am moving soon. I plan on hopefully getting new supplies and everything else that can meet the requirements. I hope to take him to the vet but that is always up to my mom. she doesn't think he has any problems but she honestly knows nothing about my animals.
thanks again syn

If your mother is going to cause issues because she "honestly knows nothing" about your chameleon, you may want to find a new home for your chameleon. It's really starting to irk me that your story seems to change from thread to thread with no logical reason. I could have sworn you had told everyone you had the right supplements or had already gone out to get them. You really need to consider rehoming your chameleon to a home that will have no issues giving your chameleon what it deserves. It seems your mother may very well be an obstacle to that.

I really hope you consider all of the options and choose the best one.

 

[ChameleonRave]

Well educate her. I had to do that with my mom and now she knows when there is a problem with my cham we have to take them to the vet.

oh i tried! she ignores it! D: she hates lizards! D: but she thinks Darwin and Delilah are cute but doesn't listen...

 

[ChameleonRave]

If your mother is going to cause issues because she "honestly knows nothing" about your chameleon, you may want to find a new home for your chameleon. It's really starting to irk me that your story seems to change from thread to thread with no logical reason. I could have sworn you had told everyone you had the right supplements or had already gone out to get them. You really need to consider rehoming your chameleon to a home that will have no issues giving your chameleon what it deserves. It seems your mother may very well be an obstacle to that.

I really hope you consider all of the options and choose the best one.

okay not gonna be an ass or anything but you go ahead and try and find an educated person on Chameleons in South Dakota. most of them own cats and dogs and hamsters. I had them but I couldn't find them since I rearranged my room. i thought that i had multivitamin spray but it turned out being D3. my mom is an obstacle, but when she is an only parent and struggling to pay bills after my dad died she has a reason to say no to things. i make my own money to help keep them alive. i may not have every little thing out there for them but i keep thems safe and feed them and don't abuse them. you may think it is abuse to keep him in a glass cage, but when he is super small. and you don't want to get the big cage for him that he will need in 6 months than you can call it w.e. you want. i have taken your advice and others and i am doing my best i said I am getting him to the vet as soon as possible, and getting better supplies for him. i take your advice and then you tell me to get rid of them? how is that being helpful.?

 

[Syn]

okay not gonna be an ass or anything but you go ahead and try and find an educated person on Chameleons in South Dakota. most of them own cats and dogs and hamsters. I had them but I couldn't find them since I rearranged my room. i thought that i had multivitamin spray but it turned out being D3. my mom is an obstacle, but when she is an only parent and struggling to pay bills after my dad died she has a reason to say no to things. i make my own money to help keep them alive. i may not have every little thing out there for them but i keep thems safe and feed them and don't abuse them. you may think it is abuse to keep him in a glass cage, but when he is super small. and you don't want to get the big cage for him that he will need in 6 months than you can call it w.e. you want. i have taken your advice and others and i am doing my best i said I am getting him to the vet as soon as possible, and getting better supplies for him. i take your advice and then you tell me to get rid of them? how is that being helpful.?

It's really unfortunate you purchased a chameleon knowing there were no good vets where you live (and even if you didn't know, you should have known). I mentioned nothing of abuse to be kept in a glass cage. It's possible with the right set up and knowledge. I am not telling you to get rid of them, I am only saying it is an option.

Oh and.. Multivitamin spray? I didn't know it came in a spray.

Oh, and please stop changing your story around, many of us are having a hard time keeping up. I am just waiting for a post that doesn't include an excuse as to why your chameleon can't have the best care it needs.

 

[Thompson]

okay not gonna be an ass or anything but you go ahead and try and find an educated person on Chameleons in South Dakota. most of them own cats and dogs and hamsters. I had them but I couldn't find them since I rearranged my room. i thought that i had multivitamin spray but it turned out being D3. my mom is an obstacle, but when she is an only parent and struggling to pay bills after my dad died she has a reason to say no to things. i make my own money to help keep them alive. i may not have every little thing out there for them but i keep thems safe and feed them and don't abuse them. you may think it is abuse to keep him in a glass cage, but when he is super small. and you don't want to get the big cage for him that he will need in 6 months than you can call it w.e. you want. i have taken your advice and others and i am doing my best i said I am getting him to the vet as soon as possible, and getting better supplies for him. i take your advice and then you tell me to get rid of them? how is that being helpful.?

I agree with syn. Maybe you need to take a break from chams for the time being. Get all the supplies you need before you even have a chameleon, then make your purchase. You have to know that this is a very expensive hobby and if you can't afford it then you really shouldn't just jump into it. I'm not trying to be mean though! Btw I'm sorry about your father

 

[ChameleonRave]

It's really unfortunate you purchased a chameleon knowing there were no good vets where you live (and even if you didn't know, you should have known). I mentioned nothing of abuse to be kept in a glass cage. It's possible with the right set up and knowledge. I am not telling you to get rid of them, I am only saying it is an option.

Oh and.. Multivitamin spray? I didn't know it came in a spray.

yeah they have a vet in my town Westside animal clinic. they take in reptiles. and they do have multivitamin spray its Exo Terra thought that i had gotten it but i was mistaken.

 

[ChameleonRave]

I agree with syn. Maybe you need to take a break from chams for the time being. Get all the supplies you need before you even have a chameleon, then make your purchase. You have to know that this is a very expensive hobby and if you can't afford it then you really shouldn't just jump into it. I'm not trying to be mean though! Btw I'm sorry about your father

well wher should i just dump it off? the side of the road? throw it in a tree? im not being mean or throwing a tantrum. i can afford it. its just my mom is having hard times since my dad died. i asked a question and people end up telling me to get rid of my animals? saying i shouldn't own them? and i didn't jump into it. I did my full research i didn't want to get a huge cage for him to get lost in. and couldn't find any food in it. so i went with the glass terrarium. but for you people i will go put them somewhere. were no one in this town probably knows how to take care of them..