HELP

Logan20

New Member
Morning,
Our vailed chameleon who is 5 months, has been through alot since January 8, 2021. Here is a quick break down
-January 9: didn't eat at in the evening no feces
-January 10: didn't eat the whole day had water, no feces
-January 11: Vet first visit at Southdown - x-ray bones look good, no concerns noted, Baytril a/b given, mineral oil, given IV of electrolytes sent home
-January 12: not eating: vet advised to try baby food which he ate and drank water via a syringe catheter.
-January 13: had a large normal feces and void. still feeding baby food which he ate and drank water with syringe catheter
-January 14, 15, 16: same no change but he walks more but not interested in eating crickets.
Called vet today stated to keep doing what we are doing and give mineral oil again today to see if he will have feces but he is eating little
ANY SUGGESTIONS! Thank you

Worried Mum :(
 

Logan20

New Member
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - Vailed chameleon, male and approx. 5 months old and we have had him for 4 months
  • Handling - We handle our chameleon one or twice a day to clean the feces or crickets in cage.
  • Feeding - Crickets 2/day he normally eats 5-6 per feeding
  • Supplements - Multi Vit 2/week Fluker's and Calcium with feeds
  • Watering -Mist x 6/day, water with a spayer he will come up and drink when held.
  • Fecal Description - Brown normal same as void white normal
  • History - No previous info given to us.

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - 18x18, glass with screen on top half and top is totally screen
  • Lighting - UVB 16W day/night light 100W. Comes on at 8 a.m. goes off at 8 p.m.
  • Temperature - Heat is between 60-80 humidity 80-70 (noticed today heat keeps dropping to 40-50 suggestions)
  • Humidity - Thermometer in the terrarium
  • Plants - He has artificial plants and wines
  • Placement - Terrarium is 4 feet off the ground, in the play room so that we can watch him since he is not his usual self. We are moving him out to a quieter room today but after 8 p.m. is lights out and quiet.
  • Location - Maple
Thank you
 

Beman

Chameleon Enthusiast
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - Vailed chameleon, male and approx. 5 months old and we have had him for 4 months
  • Handling - We handle our chameleon one or twice a day to clean the feces or crickets in cage.
  • Feeding - Crickets 2/day he normally eats 5-6 per feeding
  • Supplements - Multi Vit 2/week Fluker's and Calcium with feeds
  • Watering -Mist x 6/day, water with a spayer he will come up and drink when held.
  • Fecal Description - Brown normal same as void white normal
  • History - No previous info given to us.

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - 18x18, glass with screen on top half and top is totally screen
  • Lighting - UVB 16W day/night light 100W. Comes on at 8 a.m. goes off at 8 p.m.
  • Temperature - Heat is between 60-80 humidity 80-70 (noticed today heat keeps dropping to 40-50 suggestions)
  • Humidity - Thermometer in the terrarium
  • Plants - He has artificial plants and wines
  • Placement - Terrarium is 4 feet off the ground, in the play room so that we can watch him since he is not his usual self. We are moving him out to a quieter room today but after 8 p.m. is lights out and quiet.
  • Location - Maple
Thank you
Can you post pics of your entire enclosure including your lighting and your chameleon?

So your force feeding even though he is eating 2 feeders a day?

Why was baytril given? Did they run a fecal?
 

Logan20

New Member
Can you post pics of your entire enclosure including your lighting and your chameleon?

So your force feeding even though he is eating 2 feeders a day?

Why was baytril given? Did they run a fecal?

I will post pictures soon. He is not eating thus the vet asked us to try feeding with the catheter and he will eat and drink. When we try crickets or water left in his feeder he is not interested.

Baytril in case of infection is what vet said.
 

Beman

Chameleon Enthusiast
I will post pictures soon. He is not eating thus the vet asked us to try feeding with the catheter and he will eat and drink. When we try crickets or water left in his feeder he is not interested.

Baytril in case of infection is what vet said.
How long did he actually go without food though 2 days? We do not force feed unless it has been weeks or there is another issue going on.

The vet should have run a fecal. You should not medicate chams unless there is an actual diagnosis. This can be hard on their organ function. Not all meds cover all parasite or health issues either. So without knowing the exact thing that is causing the issue you could be medicating entirely wrong.

You need to have a fresh fecal tested... Knowing if this is a parasite issue is important and medicating properly for it is key.

Incorrect treatment can make them worse not better. If the Vet is not an exotic vet that knows how to work with chams then they do not know what they are doing. We do not recommend taking them to Vets that are not skilled in Cham care.


I need more details on your husbandry. with a 100watt bulb I doubt that your temps are accurate. See my feedback and questions in red bold. Please post pictures as well. There are quite a few issues that stand out with your husbandry.

  • Your Chameleon - Vailed chameleon, male and approx. 5 months old and we have had him for 4 months.
  • Handling - We handle our chameleon one or twice a day to clean the feces or crickets in cage.
  • Feeding - Crickets 2/day he normally eats 5-6 per feeding
  • Supplements - Multi Vit 2/week Fluker's and Calcium with feeds Please post pictures of the front of the supplements so I can see exactly what your using. And exacts on when you use what.
  • Watering -Mist x 6/day, water with a spayer he will come up and drink when held. This is way to often... This makes it so the enclosure never dries out during the day. And is a risk for an Respiratory infection developing. Misting morning and night for 2-3 minutes is the common schedule. Misting when it is hot in the cage is not advised this is why we mist morning and night so it has cooled.
  • Fecal Description - Brown normal same as void white normal
  • History - No previous info given to us. Where did you buy him?

Cage Info:

  • Cage Type - 18x18, glass with screen on top half and top is totally screen. Please post pics... How tall is the entire enclosure? they should be in nothing smaller then a 2x2x4 ft enclosure.
  • Lighting - UVB 16W day/night light 100W. Comes on at 8 a.m. goes off at 8 p.m. Are you using the linear long UVB fixture? Or screw in bulbs? Need pics of this please. 100 watt is a very hot bulb... Are you leaving the heat bulb on at night or any light at night?
  • Temperature - Heat is between 60-80 humidity 80-70 (noticed today heat keeps dropping to 40-50 suggestions) How are you getting your temps? this is important as you can get incorrect temps if using the wrong gauges. Analog gauges are extremely inaccurate. Humidity is way too high for a veiled. Daytime levels should be 30-50 MAX end...
  • Humidity - Thermometer in the terrarium
  • Plants - He has artificial plants and wines artificial plants are deadly for veileds because they can eat them and become impacted.
  • Placement - Terrarium is 4 feet off the ground, in the play room so that we can watch him since he is not his usual self. We are moving him out to a quieter room today but after 8 p.m. is lights out and quiet.
  • Location - Maple

For accurate husbandry info please start reading https://chameleonacademy.com/chameleon-husbandry-program-getting-started-with-chameleons/
https://chameleonacademy.com/veiled-chameleon-care/
 
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