Help with yemen chameleon please

[magicmalik]

Hi everybody

I'm hoping here someone will be able to help with my 20 month yemen chameleon.

She has been fine since I've had her (~3months now) but over the last 3weeks she's developed some bizzare dark patches which seem to be expanding in size.

The patches change colour as she does. They are not raised from the skin. She's still eating and drinking. any ideas?

Many thanks
Adnan

 

[laurie]

i am not sure what to tell you. I have had a lot of female veiled but never seem one with those black colors. i would guess on a fungus of some type but am not sure. I would give the vet a call and see what they say.

 

[Leedslad88]

I would say a fungus or possible a burn - the pics are not too clear.... A vet check can never hurt!

 

[SSimsswiSS]

Did she develope the skin condition after digging or laying a clutch of eggs in soil?

 

[ColorCham427]

Didn't they start selling Veileds with that unattractive black spotting just like those unattractive pie bald Veileds?

I'm guessing it's only my opinion that they are unattractive...

 

[tigermaniac22311]

Mine has the same exact thing. It doesn't seem to affect her though. She has had it since she was 4 months old. She still eats and drinks perfectly just like yours. Keep us updated because I am very curious.

 

[summoner12]

I am wondering if it is a burn? It is hard to tell because the photos aren't clear.

 

[Chuck67]

If as the original poster stated 'The patches change colour as she does. ' then how can it be a fungus?

Chuck

 

[jdog1027]

I've noticed that when I've bred Veileds, it can be rather violent. The males sometimes will grip the females sides with what looks to me to be a deathgrip. After returning her to her cage, she would have what is obviously abbrasions in the areas where the male was clasping her. They would always be a very dark black color. It is possibly an injury or burn like someone else mentioned.

 

[magicmalik]

Thanks for the help so far guys

I'd say the distribution of it is a bit strange for a burn, and burns don't tend to spread do they?

The odd colouring is still there - I've got my bettter camera on charge to take some decent pics and i'll upload those.

I think i'm gonna have to take her to the vets after the w/e unless I see a drastic improvement.

What do the colours after laying eggs typically look like. I've not noticed her rummaging at the bottom of the cage which I believe is egg-laying behaviour. She has taken to drinking out of our hands though and i've noticed her drink more from leaves - is this thirst a sign of anything or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Thanks again
Adnan

 

[Julirs]

Hopefully you have an egg laying bin in with her.

 

[magicmalik]

Why

Do you think she is going to lay a clutch? If so whats the best way to set up and egg laying bin? I thought they just lay them in the substrate.

Thanks

 

[Silkyslim]

Why

Do you think she is going to lay a clutch? If so whats the best way to set up and egg laying bin? I thought they just lay them in the substrate.

Thanks

I know nothing but search here, this is what I dug up for ya to read:

https://www.chameleonforums.com/veiled-chameleon-infertile-clutch-46392/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/camilles-eggs-43-them-they-fertile-28568/

 

[ruru]

chameleons arent supposed to have substrate in their cage. but females should have an egg laying bin in there with substrate in it. i would advise to fill out this help form to see if husbandry might be the problem.
Chameleon Info:

* Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
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[KShook]

Yeah, Thats from they puncturing sp? the skin..once it's been punctured it will turn black..I'm currently giving my cham fluids and when we gave her SQ Antibiotics her skin turned black..but it went away within a day or so..It could be a bad puncture wound..possilbe burn..even fungus?? But it is hard to tell in the pics...can you give us some clear-er pics please..

I've noticed that when I've bred Veileds, it can be rather violent. The males sometimes will grip the females sides with what looks to me to be a deathgrip. After returning her to her cage, she would have what is obviously abbrasions in the areas where the male was clasping her. They would always be a very dark black color. It is possibly an injury or burn like someone else mentioned.

 

[chameleon884]

there was a thread not too long ago and it looks to be somewhat the same thing.
go check it out. link right here

https://www.chameleonforums.com/skin-problem-baby-chameleon-44233/