Heeeeeelp!!!

Bunke

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My guy just bite his own tail, fall down and just like uncontralable spasming onthe floor, now the's just laying there!! What wrong!!!
 
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Panther,Diego Suarez, Male, About 5-6 month. about 4 month.
Handling - 1 time a week, max 2.
Feeding - Crickets,flies(rare), about 20-25 each day,2 times a day, about 6 hours apart, Carrots,lettuce,water.
Supplements - ZooMed -Rep Calc w/o d3 every feeding, ZooMed - Rep Calc with d3 two times a month(about 5 days apart), Reptivit two times a month(about 15 days apart)
Watering - I mist his cage with a bottle sprayer, 2-3 times a day. See him drinking daily.
Fecal Description - Never been tested for parasites. The fecal look all normal, white and black.
History - He's been acting all normal until yesterday.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Screen cage(ZooMed), 24x24x48
Lighting - ZooMed UVB 5.0, Casual heat lamp. 12 hours a day.
Temperature - Temp range 22-29C, lowest temp at night is about 20C. I'm keeping control of the temp all the time.
Humidity - Using a hygrometer. about 65-75% before misting. I keep this by misting and he got loads of plants.
Plants - All live plants, two umbrella plants( one bigger one smaller ) and one pohtos.
Placement - The cage stands on the floor in my room, not alot of ppl in there, almost only me. It's far away from any windows of fans.
Location - I live in the very south part of Sweden.
Current Problem - Bite his own tail, fell down, spasming on the floor, no control over his body from time to time.
 
cant get a vet until tomorrow. What could it be? I'm almost crying and got this bad feeling inside me. I've been doing everything right, study about chameleons all the time.
It was just so painful to see...
I mean, I just love this guy.
 
A seizure, a stroke, sudden infection.. dont know without a vet.
you need an emergency vet or he could die.
 
Just called, they didn't have any expert on reptiles atm. They could't help me until 8 in the morning(14 hours). Gonna turn of his lights now and get him there tomorrow. Strange thing is, he was more than ok 3 days ago, and now he's acting like this.
 
If you haven't already turned his lights off, you might want to put folded up towels on the bottom of the cage just in case he falls again.
 
The fact this happened so suddendly would suggest a possible heart issue, an injury or maybe swallowing something thats either poison or stuck inside. Lood carefully and see if theres any visible signs. Not much you can do more than examine and make him comfortable.
 
Thanks for all the help! When he went to sleep he was grabbig one of his legs. I don't understand how this could be MBD, he just seems to be weak and doing weired things all the time. I mean, I have been giving him everything he needs. I guess its not my fault, cant find any reason why this is happening. You think this is sortering a vet can help with, should I wait it out or do you think he's lost?
 
I think if you have any hope of saving him, you NEED a vet.
and jus tbecause you did it right, doesnt mean he wasnt still susceptible.
 
Sometimes there are things wrong with critters that defy "doing everything right". Hopefully a vet can help get things back on track.
 
I spread out some towels last night, he was in the same spot as he was last night, so atleast he haven't been falling during the night. He ate asap this morning, now he's basking. Atleast we got some good signs. Got vet apointment today, I'll let you know later what the vet had to say.
 
:) Glad to hear he's doing better this morning. If you can print out your questionnaire and take it with you. May help vet some. Please update us when you get back from vet. Good luck.
 
Got back from the vet about 1 hour ago, she could't tell what it was. His skeleton, was sturdy and good she said. She said it might could be cramps, since he twisting his whole body sometimes. He got 2 shots, and I got some calcium/vitamins d3 drops with me home that I should give him 1 time each day.
Going back next Friday to see how's he doing. They said that they normaly bounce back pretty fast with this stuff. So now I just have to suffer another week with this :( Just hope this will help him.
He bite the vet when she was giving him he shots lol haha. So I told her to hand him over to me, then he didn't move a muscle lol.

Would help me alot to feel better if you could leave comments, tips, and support - about just everything. Need to talk to someone chameleon-people lol. Tried to talk about with my girlfriend and my mother but they don't know sh*t lol, "might cause he just gotten a new cage", I mean, that's not verry suppportive :/
 
If the vet said he should bounce back soon, well take that and be happy that it isn't any worst....I know it is hard to watch your baby go through this, but you have done the right thing...saying a little cham prayer for you.
 
Thanks guys, it means alot that someone els also cares :) and yes, it's rly painfull to see, it broke my heart yesterday when I saw it :( but I can't do anything atm than just give him the drops and keep up the feeding and watering. Placed towels all over the floor so if he falls, he got some nice land on :) I guess I have to try to ignore it, and try to calm down. I'm trying not to watch him as much as I use too, don't want do see it :( Do you guys think I should give him some more sleep hours than I use too? Or should I just keep the same cycle?
 
So sorry to hear about that. I know I would be beside myself wondering what I might've done wrong, but there's no sense in beating yourself up over it. These things happen and are unpreventable sometimes. Hopefully he will make a full recovery. Good luck!
 
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