jamncristian
Established Member
some phoenix worms or silk worms will help her recover if she does have MBD
healthy or not?
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reptimanny
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Either way if she has MBD or not im going to order some right now. Just for my peace of mind.
reptimanny
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Here are some more pics of her limbs and what not let me know if you think she has MBD
gegeland
Member
I do believe that your chameleon is developing, or has MBD. The first picture shows the same curved shape of the elbow that is shown in the first picture you posted. But I cannot be certain, as I have no personal experience with MBD in chameleons. Hopefully some more experienced opinions will follow.
How long have you had this chameleon?
How long have you had this chameleon?
reptimanny
New Member
Ive only had her for 2 weeks do you think maybe she got MBD with me? How long does it take to develop something like that? Can it be fixed
bridgofaith
Avid Member
If she does have MBD it is mild. I can't really tell by the pics. It is not reversible, but it's progress can be stopped. Proper lighting, supplements and gutloading of your feeders is highly important. MBD takes time to develop, since you have only had her for 2 weeks it is doubtful she got it while in your care. You really need to fill out the help form I already linked you.
gegeland
Member
I can not say for sure, but I think MBD takes more than two weeks to develop. If this is MBD, which I can not confirm, it can be treated by most vets and by maintaining a proper supplementation schedule from here on. But again, wait for for more opinions before you accept that it is definitely MBD.
gegeland
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Texas Panther Man
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I agree if she has mbd it is early stages. I looked closely i see that the front arms arent normal looking and are thin. How much have you been feeding? Do you gutload your feeders? I was actually looking more at her eyes than her legs and i think she looks a bit dehydrated. Her eyes look at little sunken. Not full and taut turrets.
reptimanny
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I feed her crickets only so far and they are pre gutloaded if that i gutload them with carrots and celery. I mist her 4-5 times a day and i have a dripper system. I am starting to think that the pet store didnt take good care of her because when i went back to get cage carpet the other female that was with the one i bought was still there and she was dark brown and laying low on the branch she was on.
reptimanny
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Just ordered some phoenix worms, some silk worms and some rep-cal vitamin d that is phosphorus free . i get them in 2-3 days so i will immediately feed her those when i get them and in the mean time i will keep you guys updated in case you see more damage.
gegeland
Member
Since you bought your chameleon from a pet store that you now think isn't keeping their chameleons healthy, you should really fill out the help form that was suggested. This way, if there are any other problems with how you are caring for your chameleon, which is likely if you are following the care that the pet store told you to, we can help point out those problems to you to prevent further damage to your new pet and ensure it lives a healthy life.
By the way, most people on here will recommend using paper towel, not the "cage carpet". That is why you should fill out the help form, so we can recommend things to you and tell you if you are doing anything that could be dangerous or unnecessary to your chameleon.
Julirs
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Dude now im totally paranoidmight just make a different thread about it.
Looks like a picture angle and not MBD-I would not worry. You are using too much VitD-use Repcal with no D3 5X weekly and with D3 twice monthly and Reptivite or Herptivite 2X monthly at that age cutting down to 1X monthly at 6 months.
gegeland
Member
From the second set of pictures you posted, I don't think that it is an angle issue. The picture I attached is of one of my Ambilobes, I tried to find a picture from when he was younger to try to match the size of your chameleon as close as I could. I understand that these are not the in the same genus of chameleons, but the pictures should give a general idea of the awkward bend in the elbow that I see in the pictures. Notice how when the limbs are traced on the pictures you posted it looks more similar to a U; in the picture of my Ambilobe, the joint looks more like a V. But that is just what I am seeing. I thought the first picture you posted showed the bent limbs that are a sign of MBD.
If the pictures posted don't show the "bowing of the limbs" (as everyone likes to call it) that is associated with development of MBD , then can someone point me in the right direction of what that "bowing" means.
If the pictures posted don't show the "bowing of the limbs" (as everyone likes to call it) that is associated with development of MBD , then can someone point me in the right direction of what that "bowing" means.
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Julirs
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Sure-give me one minute...
Here-look at this thread...
https://www.chameleonforums.com/what-mbd-looks-like-38000/#post353405
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reptimanny
New Member
Its weird because ever since i replaced my coiled uvb light with the reptisun 5.0 light she seems stressed
reptimanny
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Cage Type - I have a screen cage with glass bottom.
Lighting - exoterra reptiglow 5.0 uvb, TRex 60watt moon glow heat lamp. What is your daily lighting schedule?I keep the heat lamp on all the time and the reptiglow turns off at sundown and turns on at sunup.
Temperature - My highest temp goes to 94 degrees and the lowest is at 78 degrees . How do you measure these temps? I have a exoterra digital display thermometer.
Humidity - Dont know. How are you creating and maintaining these levels? misting and dripper.
Plants - Fake plants for now.
Placement -Cage is located on a dresser no vents or fans in the area.medium to low traffic At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? At least 4 feet from the floor.
Location - near mountains in california
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - veiled chameleon,Female, dont know exact age juvenille .I have had it for 3 weeks now
Handling -I handle her once a day
Feeding - I feed my chameleon med to large crickets. At least 5 med to large a day. I gutload my feeders baby carrots and celery.
Supplements - Dont know the vitamin dust im using what was provided by the pet store and i dust them every feeding.
Watering -I mist 3-4 times daily and i mist the entire cage i also have the little dripper going .I have seen my chameleon drink but i dont see her drink all the time.
Fecal Description -the color is white and dark brown and semi wet. My chameleon has never been tested for parasites.
Lighting - exoterra reptiglow 5.0 uvb, TRex 60watt moon glow heat lamp. What is your daily lighting schedule?I keep the heat lamp on all the time and the reptiglow turns off at sundown and turns on at sunup.
Temperature - My highest temp goes to 94 degrees and the lowest is at 78 degrees . How do you measure these temps? I have a exoterra digital display thermometer.
Humidity - Dont know. How are you creating and maintaining these levels? misting and dripper.
Plants - Fake plants for now.
Placement -Cage is located on a dresser no vents or fans in the area.medium to low traffic At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? At least 4 feet from the floor.
Location - near mountains in california
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - veiled chameleon,Female, dont know exact age juvenille .I have had it for 3 weeks now
Handling -I handle her once a day
Feeding - I feed my chameleon med to large crickets. At least 5 med to large a day. I gutload my feeders baby carrots and celery.
Supplements - Dont know the vitamin dust im using what was provided by the pet store and i dust them every feeding.
Watering -I mist 3-4 times daily and i mist the entire cage i also have the little dripper going .I have seen my chameleon drink but i dont see her drink all the time.
Fecal Description -the color is white and dark brown and semi wet. My chameleon has never been tested for parasites.
reptimanny
New Member
Sorry i forgot to redo the temps. That has changed but i forgot to retype it here hold on
