Gracefull chams
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Fearaffect
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Thats super over priced for one of those.....dont pay more then 35.00 for a WC one.
http://adcham.com/html/taxonomy/species/chgracilis.html
http://adcham.com/html/taxonomy/species/chgracilis.html
kianna2118
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graceful chameleon
ibeen owning a graceful chameleon for about 7 months now. They are not worth $99 they are only worth $35-$40. They are very aggressive and pickey eaters but make wonderful pets. They hardly change any sort of colors as female does. As i was told female change more colors than a male chameleon does. So good luck
ibeen owning a graceful chameleon for about 7 months now. They are not worth $99 they are only worth $35-$40. They are very aggressive and pickey eaters but make wonderful pets. They hardly change any sort of colors as female does. As i was told female change more colors than a male chameleon does. So good luck
totally not true. my gracefull was wonderful. not all animals esp. reptiles are going to be affectionate and cuddly. chams are a look dont tuch too often kind of pet unless that cham enjoys being held. my male veiled cant stand me loves my bf tristan the female is content with both of us.
casperpetersen
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NO! Chamaeleon (especially chamaeleo species) should be handlet for Your pleasure... only when it´s truly needed...
(and by You I mean the people who handle them on dayli basis just for fun
)
In my book Chamaeleo species are some of the more entertaining chamaeleons if you have a group of minimum three individuals as it is with all other species...a lonesome chamaeleon is a waste of potential "entertainment" or as I see it a waste of potential info about the species interaction... but that´s just my point of wiew
(and by You I mean the people who handle them on dayli basis just for fun
)In my book Chamaeleo species are some of the more entertaining chamaeleons if you have a group of minimum three individuals as it is with all other species...a lonesome chamaeleon is a waste of potential "entertainment" or as I see it a waste of potential info about the species interaction... but that´s just my point of wiew
While it might be possible for experienced chameleon people to keep some species in groups if the cage is large enough, etc., its not recommended on this forum IMHO because there are too many newbies here that would most certainly lose the chameleons trying to do something like this.
Dan
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I wouldnt say NO chameleon should NEVER be held. My male LOVES to be held. Anytime I open the cage he "runs" over to my and reaches out for my arm or to grab my shirt. And its not just me, he comes out to anybody. he never fires up, puffs up or hisses. When I set him down to cruise around my apartment or on his ficus he always finds his way back to me.
I think each cham is different with different personalities. Some enjoy being held while others dont, you just have to feel the vibe of your cham.
I think each cham is different with different personalities. Some enjoy being held while others dont, you just have to feel the vibe of your cham.
chamelisa
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They are often gentle but can be stressed out and react accordingly. I have some that are acclimating now. They come in with all kinds of parasites and I received one with an alarming amount of coccidia. Buy with caution and make sure you have enough money for a fecal exam and treatment. Most importantly, practice good hygiene and quarantine the animal.
This is an awesome species.
Lastly, house your chameleons individually unless you are putting them together for breeding which should be for a short period. That is my opinion.
casperpetersen
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Minor correction Casper, chamaeleo is a genus not a species. Chamaeleo calyptratus is a species.
There are only a few chams in this genus that can or "should" ever be housed in a group. I would double check the copy right date on that book, you need a better book.
when I said "(especially chamaeleo species)" I meant all the species in the chamaeleo genus ...
I know that chamaeleo species dislike each other...a lot.
and I don´t mean that one should keep the chamaeleons together all the time (unless the keeper have a enormus terrarium) but keep them single for the most of the time but acationaly put them together male female or male male or female female for a while foreksamble in a freerange setup or a big terrarium just to observe their interaktions.
I keep my four ch roperi in seperate cages/terrarium but they will be paired up from time to another...
and I refuse to belive that any "healthy"/mental sane chamaleon love to be handelt ...
and the book i refere to is my brain
chamelisa
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I disagree. We live in a place where getting chameleons is easy. Maybe it's not so easy for the OP. They can also buy from the Internet. My first Cham was $100 and I was told I paid too much for him considering he was a WC. But it was worth it.
Pure
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LOL man lighten up. I was halfway playing with you in my post, hence the smiley faces. And if this is all of what you meant, then you should have posted as such. You have to realize the written word on a public forum is very easy to take literally. So one needs to be careful about the advice one gives. Even though you may have not mean for the OP to take your post as to say they can live together, it was written that way.
I agree on the handling thing.
edit: I'm sorry as I am unfamiliar with your name or your book. Mind giving the title of the book? I just googled your name and didn't see anything other than your facebook listing. This is the first I've heard of chams being kept in groups of three to offset aggression. I'm am failure with this technique, as it's often used when dealing with territorial fish such as cichlids. I was unaware that it would work for chameleons as well. I thought their territorial instincts would make this technique null and void.
double edit: With the fish, this works not to disperse aggression, but more so to keep one particular animal from getting beat on. Usually there is a hierarchy and the dominant fish has more than one animal express it's aggression on.
I'm not convinced this would work with Chams, and would be interested in reading any studies done on this.
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casperpetersen
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first I want to appologise to renzo0684 for the little twist in your thread..
and now for Pure
you might be right about the written word
I can see that it could be a bit confussing...
and about the book... it´s a figure of speech (move two lines up)
now back to the gracilis
an idea for the terrarium....
day teperature:25-35 celsius
night : about 16-20 celsius
in the wild they live in both savannas, dry and wet forest so It´s hard to say what type of condisions that will be best for it .....
but if it rains one or two times a day (minimum legth of rain 60sec.) it would be ok
hopefully it will be a (human)shy/(human)angry chamaeleon (it´s normal for chamaeleo)
he/she would properly eat any thing (insects ect...).
first I want to appologise to renzo0684 for the little twist in your thread..
and now for Pure
you might be right about the written word
I can see that it could be a bit confussing... and about the book... it´s a figure of speech (move two lines up)
now back to the gracilis
an idea for the terrarium....
day teperature:25-35 celsius
night : about 16-20 celsius
in the wild they live in both savannas, dry and wet forest so It´s hard to say what type of condisions that will be best for it .....
but if it rains one or two times a day (minimum legth of rain 60sec.) it would be ok
hopefully it will be a (human)shy/(human)angry chamaeleon (it´s normal for chamaeleo)
he/she would properly eat any thing (insects ect...).
