Fl Chams

[ERKleRose]

Edit: I was mistaken, my dude got his @framschams NOT FLchams so from the looks of the previous posts/threads I wouldn't reccomend buying from them. My guy came from LLL and I know they are reputable!

Sadly, LLL Reptile isn’t reputable either...

 

[Kamikaze Chameleon]

Sadly, LLL Reptile isn’t reputable either...

Oh? Well that's news to me, what makes you say that? I don't understand why these are sponsored?

 

[Beman]

Oh? Well that's news to me, what makes you say that? I don't understand why these are sponsored?

We don't sponsor them... They sponsor the site... Essentially they pay the site to be a sponsor and the funds then go to the operation costs of running a site like this.

 

[ERKleRose]

Oh? Well that's news to me, what makes you say that? I don't understand why these are sponsored?

They are sponsors for supplies, not chams. They sell usually sick chams that can have parasites that are flipped and/or wild-caught, not responsibly bred by themselves

 

[absolutbill]

FL Chams lives in a gated community (or at least he used to), which is why there is no local pick-up. I think if you Google it you can find a video of his set-ups. He did allow me to pick my panther up just outside his community in the parking lot of a restaurant. However, with Covid I can understand why he would have stopped that practice. I picked mine up 12 years ago when I got into the hobby and don't know if anything has changed for him since then.

 

[Ramrod]

I got a veiled from them about 2 years ago without any health problems but when I enquired about hatch date and a couple other things,
They couldn't answer the questions. Huh???

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

We don't sponsor them... They sponsor the site... Essentially they pay the site to be a sponsor and the funds then go to the operation costs of running a site like this.

That's a problem too, because the Purchasing A Chameleon page in the Resources says:

The sponsors at Chameleon Forums have a history of responsible breeding and are invested in their animals' care.

FL Chams IS on that list. LLL, while not on the list of breeders, still appears as a site sponsor. I can see how there could be some confusion.

 

[Beman]

That's a problem too, because the Purchasing A Chameleon page in the Resources says:

FL Chams IS on that list. LLL, while not on the list of breeders, still appears as a site sponsor. I can see how there could be some confusion.

Well looking at the feedback of others apparently they used to have a responsible history. It is still the person's responsibility to check out where they are ordering from. Honestly I could not imagine ordering a living thing and not finding out about the business first.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

It is still the person's responsibility to check out where they are ordering from. Honestly I could not imagine ordering a living thing and not finding out about the business first.

Yup, caveat emptor. Can't stress it enough.