fewer eggs than expected - possibly retaining some?
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NewOwner
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I dont believe so... Sandra did say..
Vet took more xrays, consulted with the other reptile vet there, palpatated.
They feel that the other eggs are not ready to be laid yet. Therefore the oxytocin is not the way to go. More calcium, ensure she stays hydrated, and then wait and see.
They think the eggs arent ready to be laid... And to 'Wait and see'
sandrachameleon
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Spaying was an option considered and decided against.
The vet feels there are no eggs that need to be laid. There were more x-rays taken at a different angle that indicated no fully formed eggs. Vet feels there may be eggs partially formed, that wont be ready to be laid for a while. We came to no definative conclusions about why she'd have half the normal number of eggs now, and presumable the other half later.
In any case, risky surgery is not currently planned.
I remain concerned that she is not eating, nor acting herself.
But on the other hand, she's been pretty stressed out by three vet trips, including a full day at the vet for observation and thus not in her normal cage, multiple injections, plus of course she did just lay some eggs not long ago.
As hard as it is, wait and see is the course of action recommended.
The vet feels there are no eggs that need to be laid. There were more x-rays taken at a different angle that indicated no fully formed eggs. Vet feels there may be eggs partially formed, that wont be ready to be laid for a while. We came to no definative conclusions about why she'd have half the normal number of eggs now, and presumable the other half later.
In any case, risky surgery is not currently planned.
I remain concerned that she is not eating, nor acting herself.
But on the other hand, she's been pretty stressed out by three vet trips, including a full day at the vet for observation and thus not in her normal cage, multiple injections, plus of course she did just lay some eggs not long ago.
As hard as it is, wait and see is the course of action recommended.
The spaying isn't only done when there are eggs that are ready to be laid that are not being laid...its done if the chameleon is in follicular stasis.
See this thread...
https://www.chameleonforums.com/video-follicular-stasis-surgery-22625/
Sandrachameleon...is she sitting up high in her cage or down low? Is she drinking? I'm concerned that you say she is not acting herself.
See this thread...
https://www.chameleonforums.com/video-follicular-stasis-surgery-22625/
Sandrachameleon...is she sitting up high in her cage or down low? Is she drinking? I'm concerned that you say she is not acting herself.
sandrachameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
Thanks for the link. I read the text, but choose not to watch the video. I'll ask my vet if she'd like to see it though when she is back at work on Thursday.
Marmalade isnt overly active (normally she moves around quite a lot) today. When she does move, she seems clumsy and wobbly. This is not normal. I dont know what it means, but I know it cant be good. But she has moved from mid-cage to basking spot and back again (maybe she's moved more than that, but this is all I know for certain). She's not been back to the bottom of the cage where I the laying box remains.
Worse, One of her eyes sees to have a film over it, and is maybe a bit swollen.
She's been thirsty. Ive been bringing the dripper hose right to her so that she doesnt have to get there herself. So I know she's had water at least five times today.
But she is not eating, even though I've put silkworms and butterworms (two of her favorites) directly in from of her on the branch.
Assuming Marmalade makes it to Thursday, and if she's still not behaving normally, I intend to take her back to the vet.
In the meantime, not much more I can do. Its depressing.
Marmalade isnt overly active (normally she moves around quite a lot) today. When she does move, she seems clumsy and wobbly. This is not normal. I dont know what it means, but I know it cant be good. But she has moved from mid-cage to basking spot and back again (maybe she's moved more than that, but this is all I know for certain). She's not been back to the bottom of the cage where I the laying box remains.
Worse, One of her eyes sees to have a film over it, and is maybe a bit swollen.
She's been thirsty. Ive been bringing the dripper hose right to her so that she doesnt have to get there herself. So I know she's had water at least five times today.
But she is not eating, even though I've put silkworms and butterworms (two of her favorites) directly in from of her on the branch.
Assuming Marmalade makes it to Thursday, and if she's still not behaving normally, I intend to take her back to the vet.
In the meantime, not much more I can do. Its depressing.
sandrachameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
She ate a cricket (heavily dusted with calcium) this morning! I am taking this as a positive sign. Weird that she choose a cricket over a silkworm, but whatever she wants she can have.
Seems to have something wrong with one eye, which may explain somewhat clumsy movements and that she missed the cricket on first attempt. I placed it closer to her and sorta held it to make it easier for her to get. Plan to try rinsing the eye this afternoon.
Weird that she choose a cricket over a silkworm, but whatever she wants she can have.Seems to have something wrong with one eye, which may explain somewhat clumsy movements and that she missed the cricket on first attempt. I placed it closer to her and sorta held it to make it easier for her to get. Plan to try rinsing the eye this afternoon.
sandrachameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
She is eating, drinking, and yesterday dropped an enormous poop. oops Sorry to whoever it was that doesnt like the word poop. change that to She defecated mightily!
Her eye is still weird.
I'm allowing hope to become optimism.
Her eye is still weird.
I'm allowing hope to become optimism.
NewOwner
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She is eating, drinking, and yesterday dropped an enormous poop. oops Sorry to whoever it was that doesnt like the word poop. change that to She defecated mightily!
Her eye is still weird.
I'm allowing hope to become optimism.
Glad To hear
Hope she does alright
-Levi
summoner12
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I have found that no distractions can help a female do her job. Placing her in a 5 gallon bucket with a lamp above it for some heat and nowhere to go might do the trick IF there are eggs ready to be laid.
This method has worked for me twice out of the two times I've had a gravid female.
This method has worked for me twice out of the two times I've had a gravid female.
sandrachameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
Um - thanks. But distraction isnt / wasnt the issue.
I think, most likely, that over-reaction on my part was the issue
I think, most likely, that over-reaction on my part was the issue
summoner12
Avid Member
Um - thanks. But distraction isnt / wasnt the issue.
I think, most likely, that over-reaction on my part was the issue
I meant as in things to climb and food and her cage. If a female is showing she is ready to lay with wondering around the bottom of the cage I think putting them in a bucket is a good idea so they can get the job done.
but keep us updated
sandrachameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
In case anyone was wondering, this chameleon is still alive and seems fully recovered.
summoner12
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Glad to hear Sandra
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