few questions

[bylee2009]

Please help

sorry for all the posts, forgot something else, i just noticed it yesterday for the first time, but when he "blinks" his eye looks like its rolling around in there, like it bulges out then moves back i have NO idea what this is, also heres 2 moire pics, the first from right before he started getting worse and the other was a few days ago please lemme know what you think

 

[carol5208]

I know a person which keeps a female veiled which is kept this way for about 7-8 years by now and she´s still fit.
Maybe a new thread would be a good idea, but i think that it will kind of be too much input for me to react on as there are a huge number of american keepers around but only few german/european members.

Most of the people who come on here with sick chameleons are ones whose husbandry is off from the start. Not every single time, but most always. It seems the lighting and supplement schedule that the forum recommends suits most of us and we have healthy chameleons. Key is to start your chameleon off with the good husbandry from the very beginning, and not 6months or a year into its life after damage has already ocuured. From what I have seen, if you start out with the correct lighting and supplementation schedule(and there are some variables as to where you live, if you get natural uvb yearround, like I do etc) then the odds are with you to have a healthy chameleon. Just saying from what I have read on here. I think you have to agree with that somewhat.

 

[bylee2009]

Most of the people who come on here with sick chameleons are ones whose husbandry is off from the start. Not every single time, but most always. It seems the lighting and supplement schedule that the forum recommends suits most of us and we have healthy chameleons. Key is to start your chameleon off with the good husbandry from the very beginning, and not 6months or a year into its life after damage has already ocuured. From what I have seen, if you start out with the correct lighting and supplementation schedule(and there are some variables as to where you live, if you get natural uvb yearround, like I do etc) then the odds are with you to have a healthy chameleon. Just saying from what I have read on here. I think you have to agree with that somewhat.

everything I started doing was from my reptile store, once he started getting sick months back i went and already fixed everything everyone suggested to me here which is why i wsasnt on for the last few months, he did improve ( well the mbd didnt get worse anyways) and he was doing good, i need to know what to do NOW with him, theres more thats happened please read MY posts if you guys want to talk about anything else please start another forum

 

[lindawaz]

Have you tried putting him in the shower? On a plant have the warm water hit the wall and bounce on him. That will help with hydrating without having to pry his mouth open.

As for getting them to eat have you tried different kinds of feeders? Horn worms are good for hydration plus they are brightly colored to attract attention.
Trying something he has not had before or something he loved before after he has hydrated in the shower might make him want to eat

 

[lumbasammler]

Most of the people who come on here with sick chameleons are ones whose husbandry is off from the start. Not every single time, but most always. It seems the lighting and supplement schedule that the forum recommends suits most of us and we have healthy chameleons. Key is to start your chameleon off with the good husbandry from the very beginning, and not 6months or a year into its life after damage has already ocuured. From what I have seen, if you start out with the correct lighting and supplementation schedule(and there are some variables as to where you live, if you get natural uvb yearround, like I do etc) then the odds are with you to have a healthy chameleon. Just saying from what I have read on here. I think you have to agree with that somewhat.

I never said i wouldn´t agree Just that i´d like to know how that´s possible.
But let´s stop that stupid discussion.
I´d recommend to not disturb him at all for a couple of days.
As he won´t drink or eat anyway, i´d just leave him alone and do nothing more but misting. I feel like you stress him too much making pictures all the time and trying to force-feed him.
Then you may try hornworms or some of those guys: stilpnochlora couloniana if they are available (?).

 

[kinyonga]

You said..."he will not eat no matter what i try n when i try to open his mouth it almost seems like its hurting him i dont know what to do anymore im running out of ideas he wont eat or drink now, someone please gimme some helpful info as to what to do"...if you can get him drinking (see below) you can try to put the head end of a cricket between his teeth. Hopefully he will eat it.

You said..."he is very dehydrated right now ive tried to force feed him water but it seems like its hurting him so im scared to force feed him "...have you tried dripping water on the tip of his nose? It may need to be done for a few minutes to get him to drink....but I would hope it will work.

You said..."all he does is sleep in the bottom of his cage"...if he's sitting at the bottom of the cage is he close enough to the UVB to absorb it?

Have you balanced the supplements and given him extra calcium to make up for the lack of it? Is he getting UVB (close enough to the light)?

 

[Echoezra]

Yeah I would try to rig up some sort of thing where he could be in the position he is in on the bottom but make that be nearer to the lights do that he can still get heat and UVB. either create a raised up false bottom or find a way to get those lights down closer to where he is.
Try the shower thing or even just long misting with really warm water. Then try horn worms.
Let us know how things are going after you try some of this stuff.

 

[Echoezra]

One more thought - how long ago was your UVB bulb changed?

 

[bylee2009]

I had moved the lights lower for him when i put him to the floor of the cage, he was still getting enough uvb but sadly my beautiful Jose passed away last night r.i.p my wonderful little guy

 

[K9Luvn]

I am so very sorry to hear your little Jose passed away. My heart is with you.

 

[BeBoSON]

R.I.P Jose. Sorry for your loss.

 

[lumbasammler]

So sorry for your loss...
Unfortunately once a cham is seariously sick it´s improbable they will survive.
Those guys can hide away illness very good.

 

[Echoezra]

So sorry to hear that.