Female veiled wont lay third day???

[ataraxia]

I am here for advice and improvements and my concerns. Not looking for what I want to here.

Your last picture demonstrates dry soil...In the last four days. Moist soil would tell me that you are watching/learning and practicing what other successful keepers offer as advice.

They are going to die anyways. I can't get them to the vet because of the cost am still paying of my dogs surgery. So whatever I tryed and give up on both of them.

Really shows your character...I hope you at least try to get your animals in the hands of someone capable of giving them what they need.

 

[Male]

I haven't learned anything and only hands here on out will be my own. They choose not to eat so that's on them. I will up the temps 5-10 degrees and boost immune systems and UVB is brand new.
Your advice really means little to me so hopefully that's a hint for you to quit posting and move on and give someone else nonadvice.

 

[AngieL]

I haven't learned anything and only hands here on out will be my own. They choose not to eat so that's on them. I will up the temps 5-10 degrees and boost immune systems and UVB is brand new.
Your advice really means little to me so hopefully that's a hint for you to quit posting and move on and give someone else nonadvice.

Whoa that's a bit off. Dirt can impact a female too. You were advised to see a vet because impaction is a serious issue that can be fatal and sometimes a vet is the only one who can fix it.

If both of your females are having troubles eating I would think its not likely a coincidence. Either something contagious like parasites or something in the husbandry. We are not all qualified vets here that can give you easy answers for you to fix your chameleons issues right away. If you would like to fill in this form
https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/ then we can look at husbandry and see if anything sticks out.

I understand that vet bills are expensive but that is a risk you take when you keep any pet, especially fussy, exotic pets that are known to have health issues and especially egg laying breeding females.

This is a friendly invaluable resource we have here at the forums and I think that your comments aren't kind towards and experienced keeper who cares about the health of yours, a strangers chameleon.

 

[Male]

Nice your opinion gets deleted. Shows the truth about this site being wrong advice.

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

Your post was deleted due to language. It's unfortunate that you're not willing to do what is needed for the sake of your animals but you cannot pass that onto us when we are trying to help you. I hope for the sake of your chameleons (and it looks like you already lost a male recently) that you decide to do what's best for them.

 

[Male]

Your post was deleted due to language. It's unfortunate that you're not willing to do what is needed for the sake of your animals but you cannot pass that onto us when we are trying to help you. I hope for the sake of your chameleons (and it looks like you already lost a male recently) that you decide to do what's best for them.

Ok that's fine strange you can delete that but not a thread I reported to get deleted. I did what was needed and still troublesome. Yea trying to help yea going around my updates and mentioning dry dirt I still don't get that dry dirt so what.
This is the truth right now and don't give a dam if you believe it or not. No vet and if they don't get better on there own then there forsaken to dead there choose not mine. Mbd will happen with them not eating dusted feeders my worry I can't do nothing about. The best am doing is letting them be at home with lights off to relax.
That is the bottom line I can live with it. Just get new chams from the pet store like I did a lot cheaper then useless vets. Post what you like and what you like doesn't matter to me your opinion feelings whatever. Back to my sexy gf gave up on the chams freakin tards any how.

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

So it's their choice to die because you have trapped them in a cage with inadequate living conditions and refuse to do anything about it? No, that is your choice to allow them to suffer and die, and that is the bottom line.

 

[Video Master]

If you can't afford to take care of an animal which includes vet care then you should not have said animal. You have been given lots of information on this site and it does not seem that you have learned anything from what all these experience people have told you, especially from one of them who is a vet for a living.

 

[Male]

So it's their choice to die because you have trapped them in a cage with inadequate living conditions and refuse to do anything about it? No, that is your choice to allow them to suffer and die, and that is the bottom line.

Know it isn't the bottom line they choose it.

 

[Male]

No vet provided me advice here. Vets want to get payed before they say a word.

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

They don't chose a single thing about their lives! You are responsible for providing them with the proper food and habitat and other necessities to allow them to thrive, and if you do not do that what other choice do they have? They can't go to a place with better conditions because they are locked in a cage. You, and you alone are responsible for their lives, and if they die because you won't step up and take responsibility then that is completely 100% your fault.

I am a vet. And provide free advice all the time. But you have to actually listen to it.

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

If you say so shoeboy I don't care what you say wasting your time. Am a screw up and will die someday and with gods creatures if he's even real. Will deal with me in whatever way. Til then my pets need to be troopers. Not as tough as I am but will learn or die. I can end there life's right now it's like 32 degrees outside. If I give up completely and haven't yet I will throw the cages and all in my backyard. Think am bullshitin ill post a photo. Ain't no troll and ain't full of sh!t.

I keep having to delete your posts due to inappropriate language. Please give your chameleons, as well as any other pets you may have, to someone else more deserving of them. And please stop wasting our time.

 

[Male]

K bye ain't doing that giving them away. Delete whole thing and got two fingers in the air to this whole bogus website... The only thing that's correct anyone said all week wasted my time. That makes sense bye bye

 

[Jon114]

What a mature, positive attitude towards your pets. If you could even call them that, as you treat them more as "items". You came here for advice and got exactly that, but denied it and insisted on doing things your way. Why even bother coming here with such a disposition? You lost a male cham, and are about to lose 2 more, in less than a year. I'm new to chameleons, but certainly not reptiles, and that's obviously not normal. Such occurances are only the result of your care. That's right, it's NOT the animals fault. It's YOUR fault. If you don't care for an animal properly; it will die. It's as simple as that. You don't need pets. At all.

With that said, I expect another immature remark fit for a person as low are yourself. With such maturity, I doubt you are older than 18. If so? Then please, get an education, some help, and GROW UP. Next time something doesn't go your way, or if someone doesn't do something you want, don't throw a tantrum. There's more to life than your petty desires.

Get back to your "sexy gf".

I bet she's just a poster in your bedroom.

 

[Male]

Lol she ain't a poster more real then this website.

 

[Jon114]

Lol she ain't a poster more real then this website.

Hardy har har.

At least my suspicions about your age have been confirmed.

You will mature, in time.

Or not. Your choice.

Just like how your chameleons are choosing not to eat.

I guess you're not that different from your pets.

You both make rather poor choices.

Pity...

 

[Video Master]

Can a mod please lock this thread so this can stop now. This is going no where and he has been given what he needs to help his animals and it is now up to him to follow the help.

 

[Trace]

I’m certainly getting low on the old troll spray this week. Stop with the offensive language right now. You know, you really aren’t doing yourself any favours by coming to a website filled with knowledgeable and caring people and dismissing their help and calling them names.

There may still people still willing to help those animals. What part of the information you have been presented has been difficult to do or understand? If it is a monetary issue, which I completely understand, then perhaps giving them to a rescue might be prudent. ChamEO is set up for these kinds of things, drop them a line. http://www.chameo.org/