Female veiled not laying eggs

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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Our female veiled chameleon is about 6 months old. She has been in our care for 4 months.
Handling - We handle her 3-4 times a week, but for no more than a few minutes at a time. Normally just moving her from her cage to a tree we have for her to climb.
Feeding - We normally feed her mealworms (healthy crickets have been hard to come by here lately). We were giving her about 10 a day a month ago, but have since reduced down to 4-5 because that is the most she is eating at a time. We feed her first thing in the morning, every morning, around 7 with calcium powder. We give the feeders store bought calcium and green leafy foods.
Supplements - We give her Repti-Cal calcium powder without D3 everyday, and Fluker's calcium powder with D3 and Herptivite Multivitamin 2 times a month.
Watering - We mist with a spray bottle around 5 times a day for about 15 seconds at a time. We also use a cup that drips water. I occasionally see her drink.
Fecal Description - She has small, black droppings along with her usual white urates. She has not been tested for parasites while in our care.
History - When we first got her, she was very active, had excellent colors, and ate a drank a lot. Within the past 2-3 weeks, she has become less active, has darker colors combined with many mustard yellow spots, and has been eating much less.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Screen cage, 2'x2'x4'
Lighting - We use a 50W heat bulb for her basking area, as well as towards the bottom, slightly above her sand box, and a 26W UVB bulb. We turn the lights on at 7 in the morning, and off at 8:30 in the evening.
Temperature - The cage floor is around 65-70 and the 75-85, depending on the day, in the basking area. The lowest overnight temperature is 60. I use a combined thermometer/hydrometer to measure the temps.
Humidity - The humidity level stays around 65% from the misting. This is also measured by the combined thermometer/hydrometer.
Plants - We do not have any live plants at the moment, but we have a 4' tall fake tree as well as many bend-a-branch vines, and plastic vines.
Placement - The cage is located in the rarely used guest bedroom, in the corner by the wall heater. The bottom of the cage is on the floor, so the top of the cage, where she usually stays is about 4' off the ground.
Location - Currently located in South-East CT.

Current Problem - We are almost positive that our girl is gravid and ready to lay eggs. She has been crawling into her sand box for about 2 weeks now, and has had her mustard-yellow spots for about a week. We have tried putting her in a large tote full of wet playground sand so she would dig, and blocking her view of anything around, but she has been there for almost a week now and has not laid any eggs yet, and has hardly even been digging. We don't want her to get egg bound, and we've been trying to follow tips that we've found in other peoples' threads, but nothing we've found so far seems to be helping. Is there anything else we can do? Should we continue letting her try? At what point do we need to take her to the vet?
 
There's no way to know for sure if she has eggs without an X-ray. I would not keep her in a large tub for any length of time. When I've had a stubborn female that wouldn't use the regular laying bin I'd put her in a large trash can bin for a couple hours in the late afternoon (they normally dig in the late afternoon) and if she didn't start digging to lay returned her to her free range and try again the next day or day after. Six months is young and she could be sick instead of carrying eggs. I would also highly recommend a fecal on her. Please post a few pictures of her so I can see what she looks like. I'm not sure about that UVB light you are using either. I recommend a tube style Reptisun 5.0.

My advise to you is to keep a good size laying bin in her enclosure at all times and to get a larger variety of feeders. Meal worms are not a good choice of feeder. You can order crickets. I buy from Lazy H and it's a wonderful family owned and run cricket farm. You'll never meet a nicer man than Brad. His prices are very reasonable and he'll ship them right to your door. I would also recommend some roaches, super worms (Brad sales these cheap also) butter worms, silkworms and hornworms.

http://www.lazyhbait.com/Home.html
http://www.elliotsbutterworms.com/
http://www.coastalsilkworms.com/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/dubia-sale-101519/
http://www.greatlakeshornworm.com/
 
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Our female veiled chameleon is about 6 months old. She has been in our care for 4 months.
Handling - We handle her 3-4 times a week, but for no more than a few minutes at a time. Normally just moving her from her cage to a tree we have for her to climb.
Feeding - We normally feed her mealworms (healthy crickets have been hard to come by here lately). We were giving her about 10 a day a month ago, but have since reduced down to 4-5 because that is the most she is eating at a time. We feed her first thing in the morning, every morning, around 7 with calcium powder. We give the feeders store bought calcium and green leafy foods.
Supplements - We give her Repti-Cal calcium powder without D3 everyday, and Fluker's calcium powder with D3 and Herptivite Multivitamin 2 times a month.
Watering - We mist with a spray bottle around 5 times a day for about 15 seconds at a time. We also use a cup that drips water. I occasionally see her drink.
Fecal Description - She has small, black droppings along with her usual white urates. She has not been tested for parasites while in our care.
History - When we first got her, she was very active, had excellent colors, and ate a drank a lot. Within the past 2-3 weeks, she has become less active, has darker colors combined with many mustard yellow spots, and has been eating much less.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Screen cage, 2'x2'x4'
Lighting - We use a 50W heat bulb for her basking area, as well as towards the bottom, slightly above her sand box, and a 26W UVB bulb. We turn the lights on at 7 in the morning, and off at 8:30 in the evening.
Temperature - The cage floor is around 65-70 and the 75-85, depending on the day, in the basking area. The lowest overnight temperature is 60. I use a combined thermometer/hydrometer to measure the temps.
Humidity - The humidity level stays around 65% from the misting. This is also measured by the combined thermometer/hydrometer.
Plants - We do not have any live plants at the moment, but we have a 4' tall fake tree as well as many bend-a-branch vines, and plastic vines.
Placement - The cage is located in the rarely used guest bedroom, in the corner by the wall heater. The bottom of the cage is on the floor, so the top of the cage, where she usually stays is about 4' off the ground.
Location - Currently located in South-East CT.

Current Problem - We are almost positive that our girl is gravid and ready to lay eggs. She has been crawling into her sand box for about 2 weeks now, and has had her mustard-yellow spots for about a week. We have tried putting her in a large tote full of wet playground sand so she would dig, and blocking her view of anything around, but she has been there for almost a week now and has not laid any eggs yet, and has hardly even been digging. We don't want her to get egg bound, and we've been trying to follow tips that we've found in other peoples' threads, but nothing we've found so far seems to be helping. Is there anything else we can do? Should we continue letting her try? At what point do we need to take her to the vet?

based on what Jann recommended, I would take her to the vet for a check up, maybe some xrays to see if she is carrying eggs, and a fecal. this is a site that has reptile vets on it organized by country and then state, so you can find a reptile vet near you if you dont know of one already :) http://www.arav.org/find-a-vet/

since Jann also gave you links to some wonderful sites to get feeders from, here is a blog about all different kinds of feeders for chameleons and how much they can make of a chams diet :) https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/74-feeders.html

There's no way to know for sure if she has eggs without an X-ray. I would not keep her in a large tub for any length of time. When I've had a stubborn female that wouldn't use the regular laying bin I'd put her in a large trash can bin for a couple hours in the late afternoon (they normally dig in the late afternoon) and if she didn't start digging to lay returned her to her free range and try again the next day or day after. Six months is young and she could be sick instead of carrying eggs. I would also highly recommend a fecal on her. Please post a few pictures of her so I can see what she looks like. I'm not sure about that UVB light you are using either. I recommend a tube style Reptisun 5.0.

My advise to you is to keep a good size laying bin in her enclosure at all times and to get a larger variety of feeders. Meal worms are not a good choice of feeder. You can order crickets. I buy from Lazy H and it's a wonderful family owned and run cricket farm. You'll never meet a nicer man than Brad. His prices are very reasonable and he'll ship them right to your door. I would also recommend some roaches, super worms (Brad sales these cheap also) butter worms, silkworms and hornworms.

http://www.lazyhbait.com/Home.html
http://www.elliotsbutterworms.com/
http://www.coastalsilkworms.com/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/dubia-sale-101519/
http://www.greatlakeshornworm.com/

Thank you Jann for checking this out!! you are awesome! all of your knowledge is priceless :)
 
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