Female or late bloomer

[reptoman]

profile pics

Try to get more of a profile pic like these. This is a 2 month old male in the first pic and a same age female in the 2nd. Dont pay attention to color and look at the slight bulge just before the vent on the males tail. Olive does not have a visible bulge and it should be pretty obvious by 4-5 months.

 

[froggielog]

like these

 

[reptoman]

What about his white stripes and bars? I thought those didn't appear on females?

I have females that show more color by 4 months than most males so that is not always a good way to tell the difference. Some females are tricky to see since they develope bars and some color variations and even appear to show a slight bulge at first. This looks to be one of the tricky ones. When I sex the babies from a clutch I check the profile pictures of each and separate that way. Its easier to see from the pictures than it is just looking when they are less than a month old.

 

[froggielog]

like these?

 

[Olimpia]

I say late bloomer. My first panther male was a super late bloomer, and looked solid brown and tiny for 6 months. Below is a photo of him. Look at that tail and tell me that he didn't have a tiny package for a 5 month old! But he grew into a big, beautiful Ambilobe male, and started showing colors just a couple weeks later.

 

[froggielog]

I hope he is just a late bloomer. I love Oliver with all my heart but I really want a male...

 

[jannb]

If you do have a female you should keep her. Little girls are so sweet and deserve to have a good home too. I will help you with all the females stuff. It not that bad. I love females.

 

[Dez]

Im sorry Lauren the answers are all over the place.


I am the breeder of this chameleon . At the time I sent Oliver there was no question in my mind that it was a male.

It was only recently when Lauren shared photos of Oliver I started to second guess myself that maybe it was a female...and that was because of the colors

I am usually pretty good at sexing baby chams.. infact out of all the baby chams I have sent out, I have never been wrong... unless somebody never told me they got the wrong sex.

This is the only photo I have of Oliver that was taken the day I sent him out at 3 months old. Even though there is a branch right at the important part you can see there is a taper to the tail that indicated a male.


I am leaning toward late bloomer at this point. But I have told Lauren to keep me posted and hopefully the uncertainty will be over soon

 

[justjumpit621]

Definitely looks male to me, I do see a light bulge in a couple pictures.

 

[reptoman]

The last profile pics you took do show a bulge. I now say male. Its slight but there is definitely a hemipenal bulge. This is what I was talking about how it can be so slight that you almost have to rely on a good profile pic to really make the call. I have had females that showed colors all the way until 6 months and I have had males that made me 2nd guess myself later on but the initial pics when they are 2=3 months always prove to be correct regardless of how they develope later on.

 

[froggielog]

Im sorry Lauren the answers are all over the place.


I am the breeder of this chameleon . At the time I sent Oliver there was no question in my mind that it was a male.

It was only recently when Lauren shared photos of Oliver I started to second guess myself that maybe it was a female...and that was because of the colors

I am usually pretty good at sexing baby chams.. infact out of all the baby chams I have sent out, I have never been wrong... unless somebody never told me they got the wrong sex.

This is the only photo I have of Oliver that was taken the day I sent him out at 3 months old. Even though there is a branch right at the important part you can see there is a taper to the tail that indicated a male.


I am leaning toward late bloomer at this point. But I have told Lauren to keep me posted and hopefully the uncertainty will be over soon

Oh no its okay!

 

[froggielog]

try these on for size?

I seriously think male because comparing with his brothers he has some of the red flecks by his belly and blue around his eyes and bars

 

[burnedrose]

I'm voting male. I see a very distinct hemipene bulge.

 

[Sang]

I feel its male.

 

[froggielog]

Thanks guys!

 

[froggielog]

any more opinions?

 

[pssh]

I'm voting male now that you have all these pictures up. Later bloomers always develop the BEST colors IMO.

I also had a male who was a super late bloomer and didnt have color until almost 7 months old.

 

[cloverthechameleon]

i suck at sexing but i had a late bloomer that had a verry verry small bulge and even less color, im voting for male to

 

[froggielog]

I'm voting male now that you have all these pictures up. Later bloomers always develop the BEST colors IMO.

I also had a male who was a super late bloomer and didnt have color until almost 7 months old.

Other then developing late they don't have any other bumps along the roads do they? Any apart from the average healthly cham?

 

[ataraxia]

Looks like a 100% male to me. Extremely small bulge but male.