Enclosure's right ???
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sdheli420
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arrrgggg... do you live someplace really cold?? like snowy winters n stuff??
pros: nice and clean, good amount of branches, humidity is well kept (although you dont want too much)you have uvb, good set up for a baby cham.
cons: glass terrarium (most people stray away from glass as it has its world of bad news, at least for chameleons), lighting, you only need one uvb(and for montane species, less uvb than others, also cooler temps higher humidity), maybe too much humidity (only issue with glass is they attack and get stressed from reflections, and glass dosent have good ventilation)..otherwise if you KNOW about these points and live in canada (most canadians love glass for chams, but then again they also like to do everything opposite of americans too soo..LOL, jk)
i think its great for a clutch of fresh hatched babies if you lose one of the uvb bulbs..
but looks good!!
pros: nice and clean, good amount of branches, humidity is well kept (although you dont want too much)you have uvb, good set up for a baby cham.
cons: glass terrarium (most people stray away from glass as it has its world of bad news, at least for chameleons), lighting, you only need one uvb(and for montane species, less uvb than others, also cooler temps higher humidity), maybe too much humidity (only issue with glass is they attack and get stressed from reflections, and glass dosent have good ventilation)..otherwise if you KNOW about these points and live in canada (most canadians love glass for chams, but then again they also like to do everything opposite of americans too soo..LOL, jk)
i think its great for a clutch of fresh hatched babies if you lose one of the uvb bulbs..
but looks good!!
Lizardlover
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arrrgggg... do you live someplace really cold?? like snowy winters n stuff??
pros: nice and clean, good amount of branches, humidity is well kept (although you dont want too much)you have uvb, good set up for a baby cham.
cons: glass terrarium (most people stray away from glass as it has its world of bad news, at least for chameleons), lighting, you only need one uvb(and for montane species, less uvb than others, also cooler temps higher humidity), maybe too much humidity (only issue with glass is they attack and get stressed from reflections, and glass dosent have good ventilation)..otherwise if you KNOW about these points and live in canada (most canadians love glass for chams, but then again they also like to do everything opposite of americans too soo..LOL, jk)
i think its great for a clutch of fresh hatched babies if you lose one of the uvb bulbs..
but looks good!!
Don't know if you were referring to rudis, but they are ovoviviparous.
Exo-terras can be used to house rudis no problem. They are terrariums, not aquariums and are built to promote ventilation. As long as the animal has room to hide out form the UVB then it should be fine, but since you don't have live plants there is not need for the 2.0.
sdheli420
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never mentioned live or egg birth just that for babies, weather live or egg birth..its a good tank..but for any adult chams not really the way to go
p.s. my first babies that werent jacksons were rudis ( i was 16..it was awesome!)
VeiledChams
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You cannot make such a statement. Adult chams can and have been successfully kept in terrariums such as the one above.
camimom
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Many people on this forum use terrariums, for various reasons. and thye have no problems whatsoever. Its a huge debate on the usage of screen or glass. Its a personal preferance thing. there are so many factors regarding the need for these types, some people who live in colder climates will use glass, as it can keep the heat in more, or people who live in dryer climates will use glass to keep the humidity in.
it just depends on whether or not you know what you are doing.
you can use a screen cage, and have the hcam die bc you didnt know what you were doing.
it just depends on whether or not you know what you are doing.
you can use a screen cage, and have the hcam die bc you didnt know what you were doing.
camimom
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You only need one uvb bulb, and one basking bulb,
sdheli420
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im a free ranger..so i dont beleive in caging in the first place..but i will say for the record, I THINK GLASS IS A NO NO unless you are canadian, or live where your house goes under 60 degrees when its cold..i think glass is for fish..screen mesh gives them a visual barrier thats easier for their lil chameleon minds to grasp "i cant go through this" yes you can keep them in glass..i can also keep a 5'11 snake in a house with a newborn..do i think its a good idea no, do people do it anyways...yes...
VeiledChams
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To each his own..but I suggest you read this:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/everyone-who-knows-you-cant-keep-chams-glass-31937/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/everyone-who-knows-you-cant-keep-chams-glass-31937/
camimom
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I would love to free range, and think its the best thing for chams, its alot more natural feeling, and i think it makes for happier and healthier chams. However, we all know that this is not feasible for many people. at least not on a 24/7 basis. I totally agree that screen is the better way to go, however, I also understand the use of the terrariums, its cleaner looking, prettier, easier to manage humidity etc.
as for the snake, I wouldnt ever keep a snake in my house, but thats jsut me.
sdheli420
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p.s. just did..and still think glass is a childs tank, not a hobby quality caging system..remember companies will do anything to sell you anything for anything..i go with what my heart tells me..it says glass has too many issues..
like running turbo on a stock engine..you need cams, valves, springs, tensioners, ect ect ect...
but is always, like always on this forum JUST IMHO..thats all..not saying the way ive done it for 15 years is the right way..ONLY what seems to work out perfect for me..
flixcore
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seriously i had a female who was pregmant, she had 11 babies i sold 6 of those, but my female die last week, i think she ate the substrat (bio earth) because i had Pothos and one sheflerra, but i cleaned all my enclosure and remove real plants and earth to change it for fake things, to be sure it is safe for the babies i keep. then thats the story...
sdheli420
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I would love to free range, and think its the best thing for chams, its alot more natural feeling, and i think it makes for happier and healthier chams. However, we all know that this is not feasible for many people. at least not on a 24/7 basis. I totally agree that screen is the better way to go, however, I also understand the use of the terrariums, its cleaner looking, prettier, easier to manage humidity etc.
as for the snake, I wouldnt ever keep a snake in my house, but thats jsut me.
totally right..not at all reccomended, not even for most keepers..however..arent chameleons all involved anyway..i figured if i spend this much time on them already, might as well just give them a part of a room and work around their needs for that...
camimom
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OK first. no substrate! second, you can have live plants in your cage, many of us do, you NEED to put large rocks on top of the plants dirt so that the chams cant eat it.
sdheli420
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start a thread on that with full pics and full explaination...
sdheli420
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haha first thing i was gunna say then just said what i did
great minds think alike...LOL
camimom
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Hehe yea. My guy is still too small for me to feel comfortable free ranging him right now, ntm i cnat free range him where i am staying, as i dont currently have a permanent address.
I also, will probably never free range my guy 24//7 once i have space, simply because i have a cat and a dog,m and dont need to come home and wtf is my chameleon!?!?!??!!
However, I do plan on building a free range for him once I move into my own place, that he can chill on safely while i am home. and he can spend msot of his day there, then go into his cage to sleep.
sdheli420
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ohh yeah totally read that, and commented alooooong time ago "soo rad!!! too bad they just arent made with screen!..lol)
