Eggs and Babies...

[CrazyChamLady13]

I've been doing my research and will have about 6-8 months time frame to be and get prepared. I have watched Dez's videos of the laying bin and Receptive females. I'm looking to get advice about incubators and egg advice.

Let me take a couple steps backwards and tell you about my little girl. She's Olimpia little 10 month old panther female (can't link the post since I'm on my phone). She'll be in my care either November or December, so about 13-14 months old when I get her. I have plans for her to breed around March or April time frame. I have plans on letting her as well as Waldo (veiled) in natural sun light 5-6 hours out of the day. And yes completely separated outdoor enclosures and they wont be able to see each other. Both will be spoiled on variety meals (silkies, roaches, crickets - main course; supers, meal, and anything else I can get for snack).

So... I realize that she'll lay maybe 30-35 days (correct me if I'm wrong) after breeding. I'm aware that she'll be in need of a privacy laying bin. But the eggs is where I'm looking for more info. So here's the questions:

What incubator does everyone prefer? Is there other alternative to an incubator?

What do the temps and humidity need to be at?

What should be laid underneath the eggs?

I heard that eggs will hatch approximately 7-10 months range? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Is the temps and humidity about the same for both veiled and panther?

I'm looking for advice to better my knowledge and preparation of future plans. All advice is greatly appreciated.

Thank you for reading!

 

[CrazyChamLady13]

I know its pretty early and I'm aware that I might be able to answer my own questions if I looked.

 

[jannb]

I took this info from my egg laying blog:

I incubate the eggs the same way that Lynda (kinyonga) does. Put them in a plastic Tupperware shoe box with about 3 inches of moist vermiculite and keep them in a closet where the temps with be around 76 degrees. I punch two tiny holes in the lid. To test for moisture, take a fist full of the vermiculite and squeeze it, if no more than a drop or two of water comes out then the moisture level should be okay. Do not turn the eggs as you move them from where they were laid to the container. Lay them in rows about an inch apart in all directions in shallow dents made with your thumb in the vermiculite. Put the lid on and place them in a dark place where the temperature is between 72-78 F. Moisture will form on the sides of the container and underside of the lid. It takes about 8 to 9 months for the eggs to hatch. It they are not fertile they will mold over in a couple of weeks.

If you have not read the blog you might find it helpful.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/jannb/345-egg-laying-laying-bin.html#comment1859

 

[CrazyChamLady13]

Thank you Jann

 

[junglefries]

help

I am more than happy to help, as when posted your exact same questions when i joined, i got not one response. Everyone would rather lecture you on what your doing wrong, rather than educating you from doing it in the first place. There is a slight temp difference between the two. However, 78-79°f will work if intend to keep both eggs together. I keep mine at 78.5°f, with a great fertility rate. I also make my own incubators from fish store styrofoam coolers. I place a 25w zoomed heat cable taped inside, winding down using duct work tape. I use a zoomed Reptitemp 500w controller to control it. I alzo employ two digital thermometers to serve as backups as they are all different in readings. I get a 1°f fluctuation with this method, which is pretty good. I like to use ziploc tupperware about 6"w x 10"l or so. I make a mixture of perlite and vermiculite. So far so good. I built three incubators with each costing $41 for heat cable and temp controller. You may have extra thermometers and coolers are free at any pet store. I know this method works perferctly, as two pet store breeders, 4 panther breeders, & a couple others all showed me the same thing basically when I researched it. If you need anything, pix, more detailed info, anything at all, PM me and I'll get you an answer.

 

[CrazyChamLady13]

Sat down today and was thinking. I have over a year to 2 years to plan and prepare. So today I sat down and put together plans for baby racks. I have 3 plans together all ranging different age groups, rack 1 is hatchling to small 2 months, rack 3 is 2 months to small 4 months, and rack 3 is 3 months to 5 months.

Yes I'm getting ahead of myself but its easier than waiting. It might be cheaper in the long run to order commercial, but I'm a DIY girl and like to put stuff together.

Also... since I have all these plans put together, I was thinking about building travel enclosure to go along with the babies when they sale. It would be easier and the owners wouldn't have to worry about throwing away the deli cups.

What does everyone think?