does anyone have any info on these

[cr69g2]

i was on kingsnake and saw these for sale..any inout or info on http://http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=52&de=700937

 

[Chris Anderson]

Wow, that is not something you see often. I wonder if they are correctly IDed. I'd also be curious about how they were acquired because I can tell you they were not bred in the US.

Chris

Edit: Here is the actual link to the add: http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=52&de=700937
Those photos are published photos of B. transvaalense so I've asked for photos of their own to confirm the ID.

 

[Rocky]

Hopefully they goto someone that knows what they are doing.

Also, I like how they state at the bottom that all photo's are of the exact animal for sell unless boldly stated in the ad, do you see anything in the ad saying they aren't the real pics?

 

[Chris Anderson]

Well, he did reply to me with his own pics and acknowledged that he used published photos in the add. They do appear to be B. transvaalense (although this is an extremely variable species with at least 4 known color variants). Unfortunately they are already sold.

Chris

 

[Jerm]

Here is some info that i found on them:
http://chamownersweb.net/chamfamily/bradypodion/bradypodion_transvaalense.htm
http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bradypodion_transvaalense
http://www.dewsburycrafts.co.za/transvaal_dwarf_chameleon.htm

There are some nice color variations..

 

[Eric Adrignola]

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=52&de=688394

You would think CB T.j.j's would show brighter coloration.

 

[Rocky]

Well, he did reply to me with his own pics and acknowledged that he used published photos in the add. They do appear to be B. transvaalense (although this is an extremely variable species with at least 4 known color variants). Unfortunately they are already sold.

Chris

I wonder who got them. Hopefully they will chime in here with their own photo's

 

[merumontanus]

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=52&de=688394

You would think CB T.j.j's would show brighter coloration.

Ha, came here just to touch on that point. These people have had nominate jacksonii and hoehnelii advertised as captive-bred for weeks, when clearly they are not. And if they were, the photos on the ad show nothing but totally emaciated animals on their death-bed.

If these Bradypodion are as "100% captive-bred and raised" and obtained from equally "experienced and competent" breeders as the animals in their other two ads, we're in big trouble.

Hopefully these are in good shape, given that the animals on the photos are not the ones being offered.

Fabián

 

[xanthoman]

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=52&de=688394

You would think CB T.j.j's would show brighter coloration.

i checked this link out , just because i must check out all things jackson's ,conclusion; they looked like xanths to me ?

 

[Chris Anderson]

i checked this link out , just because i must check out all things jackson's ,conclusion; they looked like xanths to me ?

No, those are T. j. jacksonii, not T. j. xantholophus...

Chris

 

[merumontanus]

i checked this link out , just because i must check out all things jackson's ,conclusion; they looked like xanths to me ?

Female xantholophus lack preocular horns. As mentioned by Chris, those are the nominate form of jacksonii. Eric was questioning whether they are CB or WC-- not their subspecies.

Fabián