Disaster! need advise re: veiled eggs :(

[jojothefirst]

Hi, a few of my veiled eggs have hatched this week.
I checked on the remaining un-hatched eggs and the tub that 7 of them are in court on the incubater and ended up turn up side down

I have put them back up right and non have been damaged but I know that the eggs cant be turned.

But im really really hoping that because they are so close to hatching they might be ok!

Has anybody had any experince of this or have any advise.

 

[jojackson]

Really depends how close to hatching, were they sweating? If they were very very close I might've pipped those, for better or worse, immeadiately.
Unfortunately its pretty much impossible to say if they will make it or not, from all accounts, veilds dont seem to be too punctual in this regard, that is, sometimes some hatch week before others or more.
Im hoping there were not too many eggs in that box. It dosent sound good to me, but perhaps other members who breed them can offer some better news.
Since they had begun hatching, there may be sliver of hope, in that most of the yolk will be absorbed and neonates will be
pretty tight fitting inside the eggs.

A note for future refrence, its worth making the top of eggs with a felt tip pen, when settling them in the media at the beginning of the process. Some folk wait and candle them first, marking a window over the nucleas. (spot where veins begin and the cells are growing)

Best wishes Fingers x'd for you.

 

[jojothefirst]

Really depends how close to hatching, were they sweating? If they were very very close I might've pipped those, for better or worse, immeadiately.
Unfortunately its pretty much impossible to say if they will make it or not, from all accounts, veilds dont seem to be too punctual in this regard, that is, sometimes some hatch week before others or more.
Im hoping there were not too many eggs in that box. It dosent sound good to me, but perhaps other members who breed them can offer some better news.

Best wishes Fingers x'd for you.

There were 7 in that tub.
5 hatched on tuesday, 1 on wednesday so I was hoping the others would hatch over the next few days but I think I have read that they can hatch over 2 weeks (please correct me if im wrong)
They are not sweating at all as far as I can see.
What do you meen when you say "If they were very very close I might've pipped those, for better or worse, immeadiately."
Do you meen you would basicly open the eggs up your self to see if the babies are ok?

 

[jojackson]

What do you meen when you say "If they were very very close I might've pipped those, for better or worse, immeadiately."
Do you meen you would basicly open the eggs up your self to see if the babies are ok?

Given veilds clutches are generally large (how many in total?) and if I beleived they were on the verge of hatching when that happened, then yes pretty much. They may or may not survive, but if they were about to break out, they may still have a chance, if it was done right then. (this dosent apply to your eggs since they were not even sweating let alone caving. This is what I mean by 'on the verge of hatching' aka within hours)

That said, please understand Im NOT ADVISEING doing that because as I said, they seem to hatch all over rather than within a day or so. It was just a thought that does not nessesarily apply to chameleon eggs.

If you have re-orientated them exactly as they were, and they didnt roll out and fall on the floor or anything, then Id be inclined to leave them alone and hope for the best.
Some species are quite tough and will not seem phased by early pipping for whatever reason, while others will quickly die.
I dont know weather your seven eggs will be ok or not, but there really isnt anything you can do in this case except hope im afraid.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I generally recommend Against pipping eggs untill they are way way overdue.

 

[jojackson]

Some information explaining the issue of turning in reptile eggs.
(apologies for the format, no cut and paste possible)

source
http://books.google.com.au/books?id...v=onepage&q=why not turn reptile eggs&f=false

 

[jojothefirst]

Some information explaining the issue of turning in reptile eggs.
(apologies for the format, no cut and paste possible)

source
http://books.google.com.au/books?id...v=onepage&q=why not turn reptile eggs&f=false

hmmm seems that in lizard species, turning eggs can have no effect on them if im reading it right (the 1st paragraph), and can even shorten the incubation length.
Still wish I hadned done it though

I have left them as they are and I guess I wouldnt know for sure for a few days or weeks untill they hatch or go bad.
Thanks you, you have been very helpfull,