Development Of A Sambava

[FOREVER ENDEAVOR]

Oh man, I know that feeling. Nothing but ball pythons, beardies and corn snakes up here in the great North West, apparently. On the bright side, if I ever do shows, I will have a monopoly.

On topic, though, I have always found it interesting that some locales show color much sooner than others. My little Ambilobe took quite a while to start showing constant color and I thought at first I may have gotten a dud. It can be very confusing when you look at the forum and see extremely bright 4 month olds and your seven month old has less color. :\ I am saying that it also varies by individual. What is better to breed- an intensely bright individual that fires up and shows colors a few months late or a prodigy of a cham that shows colors early on in life?

I would be of the opinion that both are good so long as their colors are bright enough as adults to merit passing on. It seems that we want instant gratification- I like to enjoy watching the chams grow slowly and come into their awesome colors. It is part of the fun.

I agree, like a box of chocolates..... When buying these juvis (3-4 month old chameleons) one has to take into consideration, Each animal will mature,color up,grow independently..some are quick some are very slow..you never know what you will end up with until around 6-10 months.. and just because you get an animal from the same clutch or a certain bloodline it doesn't mean you will receive an animal identical to the sire or clutch mate..on occasion you will...but, for the most part ,it will give you an idea of what to expect... that's how i see it.

 

[gregdabender]

Awesome thread !!! Im the disheartened customer of Gesang

Im so use to how young ambilobes devlop. He has bold sambava markings but little coloration..light hues of a rosey pink/red color. im just hoping for the slower the bloom...the more beautiful the flower

In his full monochromatic glory !!!!! TINY !!!!! (hes actully pretty big I just named him Tiny because when I got him at 2 months old...well...he was tiny .)

 

[FOREVER ENDEAVOR]

Greg thanks for sharing the picture! He looks great! How big is he ? i just weighed my guy in at 16.5g..and about 8" total length (tip to tip)

 

[gregdabender]

Greg thanks for sharing the picture! He looks great! How big is he ? i just weighed my guy in at 16.5g..and about 8" total length (tip to tip)

Wow...the Samabva mystery continues !
Tiny's current weight is 28.5g...which makes even less sense to me >.<
I would estimate his snout to vent length to be 6.5-7". He's a eater....usually eats 8-12 med crickets per day. I do give him small baby dubias and small silkies once a week as well.

So color devolpment is not a size issue.....

 

[FOREVER ENDEAVOR]

wow.. very interesting.. I'll be sure to post updates of my guy. i guess i need to through in some silkies!

 

[Sang]

OK, here is my sambava boy at about 4 months, same age as endeavors. he has gotten alot more orange in him then he's showing *i took this like 5 mins ago*..ive seen his entire head get orange.

i feed him orange head roaches *he seems to snub em* he refuses horn worms and just hisses at em. mainly adult crickets which he'll kill about 15 of em a day..occasionally i find a few roaming the cage when i get home.

calcium poweder dusted every feeding. calcium w/d3 1x a months and zoomeds reptivite with d3 1x a month.

 

[Chameleons Northwest]

Greg, can we get a current close up pic of the vent?

Most of the males we have from that clutch do look just like yours. But I took some photos today and am seeing some color begin to come through. But all my guys weigh closer to FE's cham's weight. Greg- your guy is HUGE.

Oh, and we do have an agreement, that if he doesn't start to color up in an appropriate amount of time Greg can exchange him.

 

[Chameleons Northwest]

Sang, can you resize that photo? Or crop it? It's messing with the page layout.

 

[Vegas Chad]

(and, hopefully, purchasers- but don't tell my husband that! ).

HaHa... Every time I have spoken with him he has told me that you guys were ~JUST~ looking.

 

[FOREVER ENDEAVOR]

wow, Sang he looks big, adult crickets already?? my guy has some growing to do! Hes eating 3 week crickets, small dubias and his first silkie today! i'll take a pic right now and post it...

 

[Chameleons Northwest]

HaHa... Every time I have spoken with him he has told me that you guys were ~JUST~ looking.

Right- I just need to get someone to distract him a few times while we're there! Can I count on you and Darci?

 

[Vegas Chad]

Right- I just need to get someone to distract him a few times while we're there! Can I count on you and Darci?

For sure... Swing by the booth and we will get him going about something, mail me some hot topics that will really get him going. Did you guys read that link that I sent you for the things?

 

[Chameleons Northwest]

For sure... Swing by the booth and we will get him going about something, mail me some hot topics that will really get him going. Did you guys read that link that I sent you for the things?

Yes, I read part of it quickly at first and then last night sat down and really studied it. Everything looks good. Thanks.

 

[FOREVER ENDEAVOR]

just took these pics..

 

[gregdabender]

Greg, can we get a current close up pic of the vent?

Most of the males we have from that clutch do look just like yours. But I took some photos today and am seeing some color begin to come through. But all my guys weigh closer to FE's cham's weight. Greg- your guy is HUGE.

Oh, and we do have an agreement, that if he doesn't start to color up in an appropriate amount of time Greg can exchange him.

Here is Tiny's......butt

 

[gregdabender]

just took these pics..

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I love this pic !!! Full of attitude !!

 

[FOREVER ENDEAVOR]

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I love this pic !!! Full of attitude !![/QUOTE]



o yeah.. this guy is ornery

 

[CleanLineChameleons]

Justin...here is a pic of a brother of your guy.

Thats with a point and shoot so you don't get as clear of a pictures as your Justin...but hey...I am in the market for a camera...lol

-chris

 

[Picasso]

These are sweet Sambavas! Has always been one of my favorite locales. Keep them coming!

 

[Sang]

OH wow, greg, i thought yours would be a bit bigger. boy he has some attitude on him.


my guy is sooooo docile.. he only has buffed up at me once, never when i actually manage to get him out.


yah my guy he is a fatty, he snubs anything to small and will ignore it. but then again he's a chicken, he got tired of roaches real fast and won't touch em. and the horn worms ..he just buffs up at it.

im so happy to finally seeing some great oranges in my guy.

*gesang, i resized the photo, and what do you think of him so far. he's probably 4 1/2"s....