Deremensis in Central Florida
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VeiledChams
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I dont think they can survive here.. Its too hot here during the summer.. Its most likely his and just had it outside.
Lizardlover
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No he did mention wild populations. I thought the same thing.
CNorton
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No way! That seems very hard to believe.
Lizardlover
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I agree, but he had a few photos of both males and females. I think he said the last one was seen in 2010 so maybe it was a short-lived "population" of a few individuals.
chameleonfan101
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Very interesting.......
allencg101
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Thats the beauty of evolution animals of any species can adapt and i would not say its immposible!!! Nataure has a way and in the wild they know how to survive
VeiledChams
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Possibly brought and let go, but not established.
Motherlode Chameleon
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I'm not going to say who however there was a breeder that had some outside (natural sunlight) free ranging Deremensis escape in the California Bay Area in the 90's. However they never became establish in the wild. When ever I'm in that area I always keep an eye out just in case I find some babies.
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Lizardlover
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You never know, a lot of what we know about habitats and climate is based on where the animals have been collected and don't always give an accurate representation of the temperatures/conditions they are exposed to in the wild. For example, I always thought cristatus were a cool weather species but mine have been enjoying, and even basking in the almost 90* weather we've had in South Florida. That being said, I think it's important to be open minded when it comes to things like this.
And trace, thanks! Captain awesome AND obvious
And trace, thanks! Captain awesome AND obvious
Motherlode Chameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
You never know, a lot of what we know about habitats and climate is based on where the animals have been collected and don't always give an accurate representation of the temperatures/conditions they are exposed to in the wild. For example, I always thought cristatus were a cool weather species but mine have been enjoying, and even basking in the almost 90* weather we've had in South Florida. That being said, I think it's important to be open minded when it comes to things like this.
And trace, thanks! Captain awesome AND obvious
I hear you Danny and knowing that has happened does make be day dream whenever I'm in the area. They have got Jacksons in Morro Bay and the conditions in this area of the Bay Area has got conditions that I would say are even more optimum for a colony of T.deremensis to survive. However this event happened in the late 90's and if they were breeding in the wild I would have expected to have seen wild produced individuals by now.
Lizardlover
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I hadn't even see your post, but I guess my reply fit right in lol! That would be pretty surreal to find a little blue baby though.
PappaRONzi
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Where in Florida do they have viable wild populations. I have family in the sunshine state and I would love to photograph some in the wild. What about other states? Hawaii I know, other than that don't know any other strong wild populations. I do find it amazing when I see species of animals that have made wild populations.
BocaJan
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That would be my guess, Someone let them go during one of the mild seasons. They might be able to make it where it was very wet and during a cool season where there was lots of trees and brush where they could get out of the more extreme weather, but I'm not counting on it. However, I am always surprised at what our little chameleons can do. I keep thinking of my 2 week holiday that my brookesia too and stayed healthy.
