Cold weather shipping?

Cainschams

Cainschams

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I would like to hear from you guys who do a lot of shipping. Especially about cold weather shipping. Ive heard a few degree marks not to get below and above. I thought I would start this thread since I have been holding off shipping a few packages and the sad news about a DOA from the kamers I just read. Im sure they are very experienced in the shipping department so this makes me worry even more.

A couple questions I have are?

What degree marks not to get below or above.

What type of packaging do you use? Company, insulation thickness/type, heat packs etc?

Do you guys check the other ports that the package might land for weather?

Do you guys run any tests on cold days or in the fridge:rolleyes: to make sure your packages are sufficient enough?

What is the perfect temp INSIDE the package?

If anyone else has any questions please ask and any other info someone may want to add PLEASE do so. I dont want to have my customers wait untill spring to be able to recieve their chams although if that is what is for the greater good of the animals then so be it.

Thanks, Cain
 
this is a good question. I thought that in general noone really shipped them in the winter because of it being dangerous due to the temperatures. but obviously they are still being sold.
 
I just recently bought a chameleon from Florida and he was shipped here to Missouri and there is snow outside and he did great, he was shipped in a foam insulated box with a heat pack inside and newspaper.
 
I shipped about a month ago from LA to NY and had no problem. I just attached a heat pack to one side and put the chameleon on the other side in the Tupperware with peanuts in between.
 
I'm pretty new to shipping and I don't ship very often. Recently I got my FedEx account approved for shipping live reptiles. You have to go through their packaging lab and have your shipping boxes approved before they will consider it. Then you are required to sign a waiver, promise to only ship business-to-business and, on top of that, you don't qualify for the same delivery guarantee as other shipments. :(

I bought my shipping boxes from EcoRegional. They have the foam insulation and the boxes themselves are very sturdy.

I haven't had any bad experiences with FedEx (knock on wood) but I don't want any either. So I have to just avoid shipping in cold temps. It puts a damper on things, but I'm not a breeder who needs to move animals.

It would be great to have a temp reading by someone in a colder region who receives a new chameleon packed with a heat pack. The package says the temp peaks at 110 and reduces to 100.

Pictures of packing techniques would be really helpful too.
 
chamelisa said:
I'm pretty new to shipping and I don't ship very often. Recently I got my FedEx account approved for shipping live reptiles. You have to go through their packaging lab and have your shipping boxes approved before they will consider it. Then you are required to sign a waiver, promise to only ship business-to-business and, on top of that, you don't qualify for the same delivery guarantee as other shipments. :(

I bought my shipping boxes from EcoRegional. They have the foam insulation and the boxes themselves are very sturdy.

I haven't had any bad experiences with FedEx (knock on wood) but I don't want any either. So I have to just avoid shipping in cold temps. It puts a damper on things, but I'm not a breeder who needs to move animals.

It would be great to have a temp reading by someone in a colder region who receives a new chameleon packed with a heat pack. The package says the temp peaks at 110 and reduces to 100.

Pictures of packing techniques would be really helpful too.
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Thanks for the input. Yes!!!! pictures would be a plus. I breed on a very small scale so I dont really need to move them quckly but I know how it is to wait on a chameleon:rolleyes: and have a few waiting right now.
 
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ask a pet store for an insulated styrofoam box that they use for fish. Place a heat pad (or a few skiing glove warmers) on the bottom and top inside the box. This can raise the temp up 20 degrees.wrap the deli cups with the chams in newspaper so they are not in direct contact with the heat pads.
Good luck
 
stephen said:
ask a pet store for an insulated styrofoam box that they use for fish. Place a heat pad (or a few skiing glove warmers) on the bottom and top inside the box. This can raise the temp up 20 degrees.wrap the deli cups with the chams in newspaper so they are not in direct contact with the heat pads.
Good luck
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Thanks for the input Stephen. I would however like some specifics on the brands and temps. Anyone?
 
Thanks for the compliments! :) I have been shipping to every corner of the country, and even though I highly recommend the already made up styrofoam insulated boxes that you can get at SuperiorEnterprise.com (http://superiorenterprise.com/index.php?cPath=27) for their ease to use and quality, I run out sometimes and have created my own boxes-buy standard shipping boxes and buy and cut up large sheets of styrofoam from Home Depot/Lowes. Since practically everything I ship from Florida here goes through the Louisville, KY hub overnight, I like the temps up there to be in the 30's or higher to ship. I put crumpled newspaper around the container the chameleon is in, and a heat pack on one side of the container. Off they go! No problems yet. :)
 
I received a pair of oustalets from jim at cham company he did somthing i never seen before the chams were in brown paper bags that were completely filled with shreded paper and stapled closed then they were in the standard insulated box with a heat pad it was about 30 f here in delaware when they arived at 9:30am i opened the bags they were safe and sleeping oh there was a small hole in the box i never saw that either usually they are sealed but anyway they were perfect and lively this was my first time ordering from him and i can say i will be ordering again he even had me on the phone for a half hour giving me incubation tips but anyway do any of you guys ship your boxes with a small hole or sealed?
 
When using a heat pack I punch 1-2 small holes in the bottom of every side of the box-the heat packs need oxygen to work properly.
 
Thanks Juli!!!! Just a question or 2:) What heat packs do you use and do you punch the hole in the styrofoam or just the sides of the box?
 
I punch the holes all the way through the styrofoam. I use UniHeat small pets shipping warmer-40+ hours.
 
Heat packs have a stopping point.

I live in montana, my high today will be -13. I ordered two dragons from Carolina Desiner Dragons, who takes excellent care of animals. Even with heat packs(2) in the insulated container, after overnight shipping both dragons were very cold, and I do mean very cold. They were ok after a while but I was really worried. I just bought one of the beauties from Justin but he is holding her because I am SURE she would not make alive. I didn't check the temp in the box but I can say the head packs were still warm not really hot but the animals were cold. use caution.
 
Julirs said:
I punch the holes all the way through the styrofoam. I use UniHeat small pets shipping warmer-40+ hours.
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Thanks Juli. I really appreciate your participation. My packages also go to the Lousville KY hub.

Yes everyone, Juli did produce some very nice veileds:D. I cant wait to see all of the other critters from you.
 
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