Closing eyes

Hello, my 5-6 month old female veiled chameleon has been closing her eyes under her basking lamp today and yesterday. She seems to be awake but she closes her eyes for about a minute and she opens them when she "hears" someone move. She is also a strange stripped color. She just shed about a week ago and Monday she still had skin on her so I misted her slightly to try and loosen it. She still has skin on her arms and under her chin but not near her eyes. I am worried and I don't know what to do
 

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She has been eating okay but she has been quite moody the past few days, I thought that was because of her she'd but I am beginning to think it is something else
 

JoXie411

Chameleon Enthusiast
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Last edited: Jan 20, 2010
Jan 20, 2010
 
Info:

•Willow is a 5-6 month old female veiled chameleon. I am unsure of her exact age so it is an estimate. I am fairly certain she is a female, I included a picture of the back of her feet. I got her April 1st, 2021.

• I have only handled her twice, once when she got out of her cage and another when we moved houses. She doesn't like it when I try and pick her up from her cage so I don't try often.

•I feed her two super worms and two crickets a day. I dust the worms with calcium without d3, I can't dust the crickets or they die quicker. I feed the crickets spinach and carrots and the worms don't eat food when I put it in there. In the mornings I hand feed her one worm and put the other in a dish in her cage, I put the two crickets in at the same time.

•I use repti calcium without d3 daily

•I hand mist multiple times daily when I see her cage has dried out, I am saving up for an automatic mister since she cant currently get listed during the night.

•She has brown/black feces with off white urinates, she has never been tested for parasites.

• A few weeks ago her breathing was heavy and unusual but that has cleared up.

Cage info

•She has a 24x24x48 retibreeze mesh cage

•She has a white heat bulb and a 24 inch t5 ubv light

•Her temperature is usually between 70 and 80 degrees F and her basking area is around 80 degrees

•Her humidity ranges from 50-70 % in the day

•I use live plants, I have a pothos, umbrella plant, and two other I forget the name of but I know they are safe

•The cage is in a window, it is on the floor currently because I am in a complicated living situation but it is only temporary.

•I live in Ohio so the climate varies

Willow is currently closing her eyes on her basking branch. I don't think she is napping but she keeps them closed for a while and then opens them when she feels that someone is there. Her eyes move around when they are closed and she blinks hard.
 

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JoXie411

Chameleon Enthusiast
Looking at your photo you need to add more coverage. She might be feeling a little insecure with little area to hide. Here is an Example of one of my cage. Plz ignore my chameleon, he’s being a brat and wants to mate with my female right now.
 

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Looking at your photo you need to add more coverage. She might be feeling a little insecure with little area to hide. Here is an Example of one of my cage. Plz ignore my chameleon, he’s being a brat and wants to mate with my female right now.
It used to be a lot more full but all of my plants are dying, I'm not sure how to keep them alive and healthy
 

ERKleRose

Chameleon Enthusiast
Hi, there, and welcome! My feedback and any questions will be in red. I've added helpful charts and links at the bottom, as well:

Info:

•Willow is a 5-6 month old female veiled chameleon. I am unsure of her exact age so it is an estimate. I am fairly certain she is a female, I included a picture of the back of her feet. I got her April 1st, 2021.

• I have only handled her twice, once when she got out of her cage and another when we moved houses. She doesn't like it when I try and pick her up from her cage so I don't try often.

•I feed her two super worms and two crickets a day. I dust the worms with calcium without d3, I can't dust the crickets or they die quicker. I feed the crickets spinach and carrots and the worms don't eat food when I put it in there. In the mornings I hand feed her one worm and put the other in a dish in her cage, I put the two crickets in at the same time. Superworms are treat feeders and shouldn't be used as staples. The spinach needs to get taken out immediately, as it binds calcium (and is high in oxalates, as well)! How do you keep your superworms and crickets? Crickets shouldn't be dying from getting supplement on them. How and when do you dust?

•I use repti calcium without d3 daily You also need a multivitamin and D3, too. Get the Zoo Med ReptiCalcium With D3 and Zoo Med Reptivite Without D3. Once a week, you'll alternate between those two so each one is used once every two weeks

•I hand mist multiple times daily when I see her cage has dried out, I am saving up for an automatic mister since she cant currently get listed during the night. How long are the misting sessions?

•She has brown/black feces with off white urinates, she has never been tested for parasites.

• A few weeks ago her breathing was heavy and unusual but that has cleared up.

Cage info

•She has a 24x24x48 retibreeze mesh cage Her cage needs more branches of multiple species and diameters (just none from toxic or sap-producing trees), more veiled-tested plants, and more vines (preferably all live, just no Exo Terra, moss, or fake vines with leaves on them). What are the dimensions of her lay bin, and can it hold a tunnel without collapsing?

•She has a white heat bulb and a 24 inch t5 ubv light What is the age, strength, and brand of your UVB bulb, and how far away is it from her basking branch?

•Her temperature is usually between 70 and 80 degrees F and her basking area is around 80 degrees What are her nighttime temps, and how do you measure the temps?

•Her humidity ranges from 50-70 % in the day That is too high for a veiled. You want it between 30-50%, preferably on the lower end of that range, for during the day. If there is enough airflow and the temps are 65*F or lower, you can have 100% humidity at night.

•I use live plants, I have a pothos, umbrella plant, and two other I forget the name of but I know they are safe

•The cage is in a window, it is on the floor currently because I am in a complicated living situation but it is only temporary. Is the window energy-efficient or does it change the cage's temps, and can she see her reflection in the window?

•I live in Ohio so the climate varies

Willow is currently closing her eyes on her basking branch. I don't think she is napping but she keeps them closed for a while and then opens them when she feels that someone is there. Her eyes move around when they are closed and she blinks hard. Do you have an experienced chameleon vet near you? They'll be able to look at the eye and figure out what the problem is.

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kinyonga

Chameleon Queen
Eye issues are not easy for us to figure out...it can be something in her eye like a piece of shed or something else... it can be infection... it can be irritation from the lights...it can be a nutrient imbalance, etc. However, from the squinting and shutting them like she does, there is likely something going on that will need attention from a vet.
 

Beman

Chameleon Enthusiast
This is all very helpful advice that I will definitely follow but does anyone know what's going on with her eyes?
I had asked a question above. Make sure you are scanning through your entire thread. You will only get alerts for the most recent comment.

Eye issues can be linked to quite a bit. With your husbandry not being spot on we are trying to get more info from you to narrow it down. @ERKleRose gave you feedback and asked you more questions.

This is not one of those "oh it is this moments" because it could be related to multiple things. Being way too close to the heat and the temps being much higher then you think, lack of proper supplementation, distance to branch under UVB being too far away, illness related to the breathing issues she was having (breathing issues can be associated with a respiratory infection), etc...
 
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