cham lingo

[rax]

i havent seen a thread about this yet (maybe i havent looked hard enough), but if there is not one out there yet, let this one be it!

ive been looking into chameleons and there are a lot of terms i am unfamiliar with, let this thread define each term for the noobies like me

terms such as "juvenile" and what not...it can be anything from species of chameleon to equipment-- just post the word and the definition!

 

[Syn]

1.3.4 Means 1 Male, 3 Females, 4 Unknown.

Cham is chameleon, of course.

 

[jojackson]

The most confusing bits for me are mostly the localities, like 'nosy-B' etc, I think most of those are localities in madagascar and surrounding islands. I cant work out which are african sp. "Yemen' refers to the Veiled chameleon C.Calyptratus from Yemen, UAE

Which ones bug you the most? Health, General ? A Glossary couldnt hurt. Maybe theres already one I dont know about?

 

[laurie]

The most confusing bits for me are mostly the localities, like 'nosy-B' etc, I think most of those are localities in madagascar and surrounding islands. I cant work out which are african sp. "Yemen' refers to the Veiled chameleon C.Calyptratus from Yemen, UAE

Which ones bug you the most? Health, General ? A Glossary couldnt hurt. Maybe theres already one I dont know about?

We could put a defination of poo or poop to be feces. Sorry I couldn't resist.

 

[Snarfit]

gravid = carrying eggs
receptive = female who is ready/willing to mate
edema = swelling
MBD= metabolic bone disease, a common issue for chameleons lacking in calcium
URI = Upper respiratory infection

CTB = Circling the Bowl, a term used when there is little chance your chameleon will make a full recovery - sorry, had to throw that one in. That's actually a term used by paramedics...

 

[Docility]

crix- crickets =P
supers = superworms
juvenile= a young chameleon
gravid = carrying eggs
receptive = female who is ready/willing to mate
edema = swelling
MBD= metabolic bone disease, a common issue for chameleons lacking in calcium
URI = Upper respiratory infection
CTB = Circling the Bowl, a term used when there is little chance your chameleon will make a full recovery
Cham= chameleon
misting= the act of spraying via squirt bottle/hand pump mister/ automated misting system
hunger strike = is where a chameleon will refuse to eat for days
sunken eye = Where the chams eye appear to be retracted into his head, and loose that nice bulbous look

my suggestion is who ever makes another once is to keep this as a running tally like i did, and we can build a vocab.

 

[kinyonga]

http://adcham.com/html/husbandry/glossary.html

 

[moody232002]

i wish i had known the CTB one. i would have been prepared when i lost my Missy she did it for hours and she died the next day..
ya live and learn

 

[Courtney]

het Raptor x Snow Raptor........what does het mean????

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

het Raptor x Snow Raptor........what does het mean????

het = heterozygous” (“hetero” means different). Heterozygous animals carry one copy of a specific recessive trait but do not show the trait. The dominant trait would show.

 

[Courtney]

thanks alot. i had that in my head but couldnt get it to register lol

 

[lucky]

on the het subject... how do you determine percentage of het? ie:60% het, 100% het.... is it possible?

 

[scarface2jz]

CTB = Circling the Bowl, a term used when there is little chance your chameleon will make a full recovery - sorry, had to throw that one in. That's actually a term used by paramedics...

as an EMT, im going to have to disagree... patient is critical, is the term we use, if you walked up to any given medic and said CTB they would look at you like you have a thousand heads... if we said circling the bowl, in our paperwork, or in front of the patient, or family, we would be in trouble

for example in our paperwork

subjective assesment

68 y/o F pt, pt is A&O x 1, + ABC, + SOB, + CP, - JVD, - TD, + LOC, pt found lying supine, agonal respiration's with bilateral crackles noted, = & bilat rise and fall, jugular pulse weak and inconsistent, + pedal edema noted bilat, pt txf to EMS stretcher WOI, pt's condition critical, at 18:46 compressions and positive ventilation administered, jugular pulse and femoral pulse lost at 18:52, compressions and PV given till arrival at facility, Myocardial infarction suspected, pt expired at hospital and pronounced by MD @ 19:04, pt txp w/ cic, pt txp WOI.

something kinda like that

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

on the het subject... how do you determine percentage of het? ie:60% het, 100% het.... is it possible?

66% would be more accurate. Its 50%, 66%, 100%

If you use the definition :
"Percentage of likelihood the animal is heterozygous for the listed trait".


example

Heterozygous x Heterozygous = 25% Recessive that are Visual,
50% Heterozygous, and that leaves 25% that will be Normal(There will be no visual difference between the Hets and the Normals as a result offspring are labeled as 2/3 or 66% Possible Hets)

So you would have a 66% chance of getting a het. Not nearly as good as 100% but not as bad as 33%

 

[jojackson]

Anything less than 100% is called 'possible het'.
Say you have 2 het (for albino for example) animals.
Offspring from them will be possible het.
There is a 2-in-3 chance that it is a het-albino. But there is a 1-in-3 chance that it is normal.
Since you cannot tell a het-albino from a normal by looking at it, then people say it is a 66% possible-het-albino, meaning it has a 2-in-3 chance that it is a an actual het-albino.

A play with this tool may help

http://www.geneticswizard.com/

68 y/o F pt, pt is A&O x 1, + ABC, + SOB, + CP, - JVD, - TD, + LOC, pt found lying supine, agonal respiration's with bilateral crackles noted, = & bilat rise and fall, jugular pulse weak and inconsistent, + pedal edema noted bilat, pt txf to EMS stretcher WOI, pt's condition critical, at 18:46 compressions and positive ventilation administered, jugular pulse and femoral pulse lost at 18:52, compressions and PV given till arrival at facility, Myocardial infarction suspected.

Lol, fancy way of saying, old lady, heart attack, probly f#cked! Wish they said it plainly on tv med drama's, much better show!

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

Anything less than 100% is called 'possible het'.
Say you have 2 het (for albino for example) animals.
Offspring from them will be possible het.
There is a 2-in-3 chance that it is a het-albino. But there is a 1-in-3 chance that it is normal.
Since you cannot tell a het-albino from a normal by looking at it, then people say it is a 66% possible-het-albino, meaning it has a 2-in-3 chance that it is a an actual het-albino.

A play with this tool may help

http://www.geneticswizard.com/

nice tool ! Thanks

 

[scarface2jz]

Lol, fancy way of saying, old lady, heart attack, probly f#cked! Wish they said it plainly on tv med drama's, much better show!

hahahahahahaaaaa pretty much

 

[Carlton]

The most confusing bits for me are mostly the localities, like 'nosy-B' etc, I think most of those are localities in madagascar and surrounding islands. I cant work out which are african sp.

Most African species don't show the wide genetic diversity that panthers do so they aren't named by their locales, With a few exceptions (jackson's, fischeri). As with many other species, the more people look the more variation and subspecies they find. Taxons get shifted all the time.