clarkrw3
New Member
I have been struggling with this for a while. What does CH actually mean for all furcifer pardalis? Yes, I know it means Captive Hatched and that it means the eggs came from a wild or unknown (farm or wild) sire. But what does it mean to us? It is a pretty well known truth that female locale is difficult if not impossible to tell by looking at the animal. So, what does this mean when we get female WC animals in that lay eggs? These animals usually come in with a locale attached to them otherwise they are almost unsellable, but where does this label come from? The importer? The man/woman that was paid a dollar a day to collect them? The broker once received? Are we sure of what we are being told? I have heard it all before, I can trust my broker, my importer, my exporter etc. But, can we trust the whole chain of custody? Are we sure it is what is on that locale label? So, when do we know what that female was? When we get her? When we have CB offspring? When we have mature CH offspring?
I bring this up because much of the DRAMA around the furcifer pardalis species has to do with locale, and specifically with he said she said about what a animal is or isn't. Why are we so quick to label an animal? It is what it is, and what it looks like, and no amount of labeling in something else will make it that. I think we need a new way of doing things. Something that is more honest. Why don't we call all CH panthers, CH furcifer pardalis and label once we know what it is? Why don't we subscribe to demanding a high standard of breeder ethics? This drama and infighting isn't helpful or healthy. It most certainly isn't helping further the species, locale, hobby. It's a real shame to see.
I would LOVE for this to be a frank conversation about this topic! Please be honest and respectful of those that post before you. This isn't to discuss any specific animal or breeder but rather to discuss how, as a community, we should handle these types of issues.
I bring this up because much of the DRAMA around the furcifer pardalis species has to do with locale, and specifically with he said she said about what a animal is or isn't. Why are we so quick to label an animal? It is what it is, and what it looks like, and no amount of labeling in something else will make it that. I think we need a new way of doing things. Something that is more honest. Why don't we call all CH panthers, CH furcifer pardalis and label once we know what it is? Why don't we subscribe to demanding a high standard of breeder ethics? This drama and infighting isn't helpful or healthy. It most certainly isn't helping further the species, locale, hobby. It's a real shame to see.
I would LOVE for this to be a frank conversation about this topic! Please be honest and respectful of those that post before you. This isn't to discuss any specific animal or breeder but rather to discuss how, as a community, we should handle these types of issues.