CB Senegals price?

KarmaChameleon1337

KarmaChameleon1337

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Don't bother asking if I know the info, I'm just wondering on a price, not looking into making money at all. How much would CB Senegal chameleons sell as both babies and adults, male, female, and with both the parents being CB? Just wondering. Karma was bought for 99.
 
KarmaChameleon1337 said:
Don't bother asking if I know the info, I'm just wondering on a price, not looking into making money at all. How much would CB Senegal chameleons sell as both babies and adults, male, female, and with both the parents being CB? Just wondering. Karma was bought for 99.
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there is a local pet store that had them for $75? something like that. oh, it was an adult male...
 
I'm asking because I've been researching breeding my Karma, I know everything that goes into it, the vast amount of money and patience/time needed, etc, and some people want to know prices of what I should charge.
 
Prices are very relative to the times and species. Unfortunately C.senegalensis won't sell for a lot due to their availability and low price from wholesalers. I would imagine 100-150 would be a fair price.

But C.senegalensis are notoriously difficult to breed in captivity. Most don't live long enough to fullfil their life's duty, however, i'd be very interested in the information of anyone who is consistently successful in breeding them. I have a lone female that is about old enough to consider pairing up with a male.

Cheers!

Luis
 
All I need right now is to buy an incubator and the female, I'm making the cage as I do alot. I don't trust my closet, my heater gives out alot in the winter.
 
They like a decently warm hotspot (I use 75-100w) and a copious amount of water. We mist for 10 mins, 3 times per day. Eggs should be incubated at ~82-84°F for about 6 months or so.

Cheers!

Luis
 
Thanks, my question is hatchrite or vermiculite? I'm thinking vermiculite... I'm not going to put holes in the incubator containers since I heard from some expert breeders that's how they do it.
 
luevelvet said:
Prices are very relative to the times and species. Unfortunately C.senegalensis won't sell for a lot due to their availability and low price from wholesalers. I would imagine 100-150 would be a fair price.

But C.senegalensis are notoriously difficult to breed in captivity. Most don't live long enough to fullfil their life's duty, however, i'd be very interested in the information of anyone who is consistently successful in breeding them. I have a lone female that is about old enough to consider pairing up with a male.

Cheers!

Luis
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If you weren't in FL I would consider letting Karma pair with your female!
 
ive had alot of success with hatchrite..seems to work well for me..less hassle making "the perfect mix on water to volume":D
 
wow.

I don't mean to rain on your parade, but just want to provide you with a little bit more of a negative view so you can maybe arrive at some realistic expectations somewhere in the middle.

Senegals produce pretty large numbers of babies. Imported senegals wholesale for around $8-$14. I think you could sell some quality well started and cared for captive bred for the $99 price you paid for yours, but realistically, I don't think you will find a large enough market at that price from the offspring produced over a few clutches from a single female.

If you end up having to deal with wholesalers or even retailers to move your offspring, they will look at that $8-$14 price range of the wild caughts before negotiating price with you- I think you will be hard pressed to sell in lots at even $25 or $20 unless you are a pretty good salesman.

I think a good comparison is maybe the folks working with the fishers species. You will have to build a market over the long term for senegals, I would think...

As just a rough hunch/estimate, I think you will probably be able to sell directly to end pet owners at around $40-$60 if you start them off well for a couple of months before selling.

Feel free to disagree and give a higher price a go though- senegals are so rarely captive bred that there is probably only one way to find out what you can sell them for, and that is to try a price and see...
 
I will never sell to people just so they can go around and sell for a profit. I will handpick out people I KNOW are not ignorant scum, who will care for it properly. Both parents captive bred, both will be made sure to be optimum health, I've had a few offers way above 25 that you are suggesting.
 
That's good and admirable- just remember you are talking about a species that can produce 30-60 offspring in a single clutch, and remember that you will be investing hundreds of dollars in raising those offspring if you keep them around long enough to give them a good start with good chances for their future owners. 50 offspring will be a lot of handpicking of owners. You may want to choose to work with a less prolific species.

Personally- I'm a little dubious that someone who had be convinced to take a chameleon from me by offering it for free to them would be able to afford to care for it properly. I couldn't afford to do that too often anyway- baby chameleons can be expensive to raise properly.

But having standards is excellent and it is terrific that you are thinking all of this through before you are in the middle of the situation.
 
Ive thought of it through for years, before I even got Karma a year ago. The last time I mentioned handpicking owners I got my head bitten off by a few people telling me that they naturally don't survive in the wild so why bother, that it's a waste of time. They really irritated me, obviously I care so they should bud out and go kill their own pets, not try to get me to kill mine. Some people are just ignorant and heartless. I'm up for the challenge and price of selling them, I make 10 an hour babysitting, and usually babysit 10+ hrs at a time, I save my money, and am going to keep saving it until I know for sure I will have enough for food and such for the little babes. I like a challenge.
 
That's great.

Don't misinterpret my speculations to be saying that you shouldn't do it.

I've been breeding chameleons and other lizards for 20+ years- I've bred more than a few chameleons of more than a few species in my time- some common, some not so much- it is easy to be optimistic ahead of time, not as easy to look at the opposite possibilities of a situation like what happens if you have your second clutch start hatching before you have found 50 excellent homes for your first clutch, and find that you cannot sell them for even $30 and the remaining in the clutch are costing you $100 to feed every week and the males are becoming territorial and biting each other as they grow so they have to each have new cages with new lights that are expensive and the power bill has gone up $50 a month and you are spending a couple of hours a day just caring for the baby chameleons. Suddenly when the next 50 are hatching out and your workload and expenses are doubled and your ability to move them into homes has remained the same, it can cause a perspective shift. When you give many offspring away and find it lowers the value and sellable price of the ones you are putting lots of time and money into selling hoping to at least break even on at least the money part, it can change your perspective too.

I'm not trying to discourage you- I'm trying to help you consider all the what-ifs.

I thought that is what you were asking for when you started this thread.

But If you just want someone to tell you that you will be able to sell for an unrealistically high price and that everything is going to be wonderful without difficulty, then I'm sorry- just ignore my comments and go on blissfully and just maybe everything will be OK. Maybe 20 years of experience breeding and selling babies and choosing the sell price is really not worth much. Or maybe not- and then maybe it would have been better to consider the what if's and the possibilities of lower prices and not enough buyers at any price and expenses and so forth before you find yourself into it so you have a plan.

I'm not telling you not to do it, or trying to deter you in any way. I'm was just trying to give you some experienced perspective to possibly save you from having to get some for yourself the hard way.

Good luck to you however you proceed. Hats off to your youthful confidence in your beliefs.
 
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