Captive breeding of F1 T. jacksonii jacksonii

Kent67

Kent67

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Just a month ago I was afraid this day might never come. I finally found a male T. jacksonii jacksonii of the "willegensis" form to go with the two-year-old F1 I have. After a round of parasite meds and buoyed by the Gesang's fecal results on their animals I decided to let the new male (Randy) check out the female (Janet). Well, as they've been eyeing each other through their cages for a few days it didn't take long at all and we're hopefully off to a new captive generation.

I always thought it was pretty cool how little male Jackson's care about what's going on around them when they're "in the mood."
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Dang, there's been a lot of these photos lately. Sorry. :eek:

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Janet thinks she's over it:

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And a nice shower to clean up and get rehydrated afterwards:

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Nice pics and vid Kent!!!! That male is very impressive:) All of you guys are making me jealous with those beauties:p Is Janet a female you raised from a baby?
 
Oh, yeah! You asked about that in the other thread and I totally forgot. I did raise her from a baby and it goes allllllllll the way back to my very first post here: https://www.chameleonforums.com/baby-c-jacksonii-jacksonii-3322/.

The long and short of it was that only 2 of the 14 survived. At about 14 weeks old they would one by one start losing their equilibrium. I would notice they'd hold their heads to the side in weird way for a day or two, then it would progress to them basically spinning; trying to determine "up." They couldn't feed like that. It was terrible to watch. :( I'm hoping this upcoming clutch gets to develop in a stable environment and will have better luck.
 
very exciting!! cant wait to see pix of the babies in 6 months!!! Nicest of the three jacksons (as I have stated before) :) Congrats!!
 
Great videos, Kent, and congratulations on your new endeavor. I would be interested in photos of the female as she develops, and particularly any changes in coloration she exhibits. There is precious little recorded data available on their gestation. I don't mean the length of gestation, but the particulars of the female's appearance and habits.

He certainly knew what he was doing, but she didn't even crack a smile!:rolleyes:

I enjoyed some of those other videos, too. The one titled "panther cham successful live delivery" was adorable. Of course, I had to view that because the title peaked my interest by suggesting something that would take place in a materinity ward.:eek:
 
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Awww, thanks for the replies! :eek: I'll definitely keep updating on her progress. I'm very interested in seeing how this goes, as well. I'm going to keep introducing them every day until she rejects him. I'll update when she does.

Sandy, the female just squirreled behind that branch as soon as I opened the door to the cage. I think most of her lack of response was due to the camera in her face, hehe. Btw, that cage they are in was the first chameleon cage I ever bought. It was used, $50, and 1991. And it's still holding together, even outside with all the water going through it. The door used to be clear mylar that slides up and out of the frame and the bottom is particle board. We've sure come a long way since those days!
 
I am curious to your male's constant head movement. Do all Jackson's do that because their horns create a blindspot? :confused:
 
Yay, more replies. :D My xanthos had pretty similar head bob patterns. This guy's actually seemed rather half-assed, if you will. It almost seemed like he knew he was going to get her and was just "going through the motions" compared to how my xanthos seemed more ritualized and precise.
 
Kent... Sorry I'm late to reply on this. Great video. He is such a little stud! I know you searched long and hard for a Male for her. Good Luck, and I am hoping for the best. They truly are a gorgeous variation.
 
How did I miss this??? I read that you were going to introduce them, so I assumed this hadn't happened yet. Fantastic news, Kent! How fortunate that she was receptive! Did she display any rejection at all initially?

Great, great, news!

Fabián
 
Hey, there you are. I was wondering how you missed it, too. :D Janet really didn't so much as move a muscle as he approached or mounted her. Their cages have been about 4 or 5 feet apart since I got him and I've noticed them staring at each other. I think maybe even more than her being ready, she's been waiting. And he knew it, hence the lazy head bobs that only lasted 10 seconds. :rolleyes:
 
Awesome videos. I love when people post videos, pictures don't always do chameleons justice.

Cool stuff seeing some Jacksonii as well, you don't see people post alot about breeding the livebearing species, so it's pretty insightful to me.
 
Kent67 said:
Yay, more replies. :D My xanthos had pretty similar head bob patterns. This guy's actually seemed rather half-assed, if you will. It almost seemed like he knew he was going to get her and was just "going through the motions" compared to how my xanthos seemed more ritualized and precise.
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When I was photographing ours outside yesterday, the female was a foot or so from the male at one point. He head bobbed a few times, but she immediately reponded with a very slight and controlled side-to-side body motion. When she was doing it, what went through my head was "tick-tock...tick-tock". That's how precise it was. Not a swaying, but more of a clicking side-to-side. Not like our panther and veiled females, who tend to swing in very broad, loose, strokes, and sway their heads as well.
 
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ahhhhh montane neonates, enjoy your nail biting, sleepless nights to come :D
and the best of luck!!!!!

thanks for taking the time to post vids, if pictures are worth 1k veileds, vids have to be worth at least a parsons


oh and i probably missed it but have you been a mod for a while or is this new, this is the first time i noticed it
 
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