Can blood clots be prevented?

[Dev]

Hello,

We recently had our 3.5 year old male veiled, Milo, pass from a blood clot. He was our first. He seemed completely healthy the day before, eating well and drinking well. He had a variety of supplements (Calcium with and without D3 and a Repashy supplement recommended by our vet) we fed him a variety of foods (supers, crickets, dubias, and the occasional tomato horn worm) humidity was within acceptable parameters, he occasionally spent time outside in the warmer months. Our set up was approved by our vet, proper lighting, heating ect. Based on what we learned scouring the forum (my partner is active here but this is my first post) we did everything we could to make sure he was happy and healthy.

Is there anything else we could have done to prevent this, if we decide to get another Cham we want to look for signs if possible, or is this something that is a sudden killer?

Thank you for your time.

 

[Andee]

There are certain greens and spices that help with it, as far gut load and also there are greens (if you get another veiled) that they will eat directly that help as well. But blood clots are not a common thing in chameleons from what I know?

 

[jajeanpierre]

Hello,

We recently had our 3.5 year old male veiled, Milo, pass from a blood clot. He was our first. He seemed completely healthy the day before, eating well and drinking well. He had a variety of supplements (Calcium with and without D3 and a Repashy supplement recommended by our vet) we fed him a variety of foods (supers, crickets, dubias, and the occasional tomato horn worm) humidity was within acceptable parameters, he occasionally spent time outside in the warmer months. Our set up was approved by our vet, proper lighting, heating ect. Based on what we learned scouring the forum (my partner is active here but this is my first post) we did everything we could to make sure he was happy and healthy.

Is there anything else we could have done to prevent this, if we decide to get another Cham we want to look for signs if possible, or is this something that is a sudden killer?

Thank you for your time.

I'm very sorry for your loss. It's always a shock to lose a pet so unexpectedly.

Why do you say he died of a blood clot? Did your vet do a necropsy? Where was the blood clot?

I remember reading a thread where someone's parson's died unexpectedly and a very good chameleon vet (and chameleon keeper), @ferretinmyshoes did the necropsy and posted pictures. She mentioned when she has found aneurysms as the cause of death in some sudden that often unexplained deaths of healthy animals.

 

[Dev]

I'm very sorry for your loss. It's always a shock to lose a pet so unexpectedly.

Why do you say he died of a blood clot? Did your vet do a necropsy? Where was the blood clot?

I remember reading a thread where someone's parson's died unexpectedly and a very good chameleon vet (and chameleon keeper), @ferretinmyshoes did the necropsy and posted pictures. She mentioned when she has found aneurysms as the cause of death in some sudden that often unexplained deaths of healthy animals.

Ah, yes. I neglected to post the tell-tale symptoms.

When we found him the back half of his body was brown and the other was green. He had no deep pain response in his tail, and limited response in his legs, he could still grasp but not enough to hold on. When we took him to the vet, it was determined that surgery was not an option, due to expense and viability afterward, with that much damage he may not have been able to climb again.

The blood clot, as found by the vet was just above the main arterial delta over the hips. (I don't know the technical terms for these things) it was pushing down on some nerves there and, in addition to the necrosis caused by lack of blood flow, was what was causing the lack of deep pain response.

I do not have pictures, I'm sorry I don't think I could post them if I did

It's very interesting to learn about this stuff, and I respect people who do have necropsy photos to share, but I don't think I could look at my own pet's insides.

 

[opheliaeatsbugs]

I'm sorry for your loss