calcium with D3 necessary ?

[unknown91]

so i have a problem, i'm looking for calcium with D3 since i got my chameleon (most in pharmacies cuz our pet stores are pretty lame with stuff only for cats/dogs) and i didn't find it nowhere, so my question is :
if i have calcium and dust on his bugs every day + multivitamines (lots of A and D3) twice a week isn't enough ? or giving the multivitamines three times a month compensates the lack of calcium with D3 or is too much ?

 

[carol5208]

What kind of multivitamin are you using? If it contains d3, then you do not need to use calcium with d3 also. If you still wish to buy it, you can purchase on line at LLL reptile. they have everything! Chameleons get d3 from the uvb lights we use or if you have them outside in the sun so the protocol is to just use the d3 a couple of times a month in a supplement so you don't over do it. My chams spend the majority of their lives outside(I live in Fla) so I do not give them any d3 at all.

 

[unknown91]

i'm not from U.S. and i don't know what LLL is and i'm pretty sure i don't have it here.
the multivitamin is from JBL (terravit multivitamines)
i'm pretty sure this one
http://www.jbl.de/en/reptile-products/detail/2547/jbl-terravit-powder
and i'm getting him outside every sunday + the UVB light ofc, from exo terra - 5.0 26W + UVA normal light bulb

 

[carol5208]

You should put your location in your profile so we know where you live. LLL is a big reptile store here in the U.S. Anyways, I know nothing of the product you linked to so I cannot comment on it. I will say though if it does contain d3 then do not use too often as you are also providing uvb from outside. It just will not be necessary. Same goes for the multivitamin. Most of use this two or three times a month also. Chameleons get most of their nutrients from the feeders and what you feed your feeders. So make sure you are feeding your bugs a good diet of fresh fruits and vegetables if the bugs you have access to eat things like that.

 

[unknown91]

i'm giving to my dubias and superworms lots of fruits and vegetables (apples, carrots, potatoes, mangos, etc) and i also try to dust the fruits and vegies with calcium (no vitamines) before they eat it.
if i'm dusting every day with calcium (without D3) and twice a month (first post i said twice a week. NO! twice a month!) + the natural light once a week + UVB light is it ok ?

 

[Djturna4thakidz]

I would suggest you still use d3 twice monthly. Sunlight once a week and good gut loading is not enough. 3-4 days outside ok but one is not.

You don't need to put calcium on the feeders food. Just dust the actual feeders

 

[pigglett79]

If the multivitamin contains D3 you really don't need anything else. Use them as you have been and you should be fine.

 

[unknown91]

we all know that what the bugs eat, that's what the chameleon eats, so i think it's more effective if the bugs actually eat the calcium, cuz dusting has pros an cons, and the biggest con, for me at least, is that ... until he actually eats them, 70-80% of the calcium fells off from the bugs, with them running around in the plastic box.
i get that i need the D3, but my question was not that, it was "is it enough if i give him the multivitamines, does he get enough from that supplements or do i need ASAP calcium with D3 ?"
edit : thank you pigglett (and the rest too, ofc), that's what i wanted to know, i was writing this message at the same time with you. and it's the first time i give him vitamins, cuz when i got her she had a problem with shaking (lack of vitamines, and the vet gave me for 2 weeks some mix of vitamins and didn't use the suplements, so today was the first day when i ate 4 dubias and 2-3 superworms dusted in vitamines. i will give her on 1st and 15th of each month.