cage & free range?

beetlejuice

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hi everyone,

i want a panther chameleon at some point in the hopefully-not-too-distant future, and i am trying to read a lot and ask questions well in advance. i have never owned a reptile, let alone a chameleon, so be gentle if the following is stupid :)

i gather that the 'standard' size for an adult panther chameleon cage is 2'x2' base and 4' tall, but also, of course, the bigger the better, and so some of you free-range them in a particular room.

now, i don't want to turn a whole room into a mini-rainforest (misters, trees, UV lighting, etc), but i would want to let the little guy roam around outside his cage as much as possible.

so, with that in mind, a few questions:

1) hydration behavior: let's pretend there's an average 10'x10' room with reasonable temperatures, with an appropriately set-up 2'x2'x4' cham cage in one corner.

if a chameleon is out and about in the room and feels dehydrated, will it "know" to seek out humidity and water and go back into its cage, or will it just sit there and continue to deteriorate?

this is more a question of "how aware of their own health are they?" rather than me trying to make excuses for potentially bad husbandry, so don't take it as anticipated negligence!

2) feeding behavior: for those of you who free-range, do you also cup-feed?

i assume what i'll end up doing is 'free-range' feeding, but only confined to the cage so i won't have crickets running around.

the reason i bring this up is: if a chameleon is usually allowed to roam around but is forced to hunt only inside a confined area (its cage), will it get 'used to' this or will it get stressed out?

3) daylight cycle: i know that it is recommended, for the obvious reason, to have the 12-hour daylight cycle match that of the sun as closely as possible.

let's pretend that the chameleon is in a room that has no blinds, so that the outside is always visible behind glass. let's say the sun goes down at 6pm but the light in the chameleon's cage is timed regularly to turn off at, say, 9pm instead.

will the mismatch of outdoor light and indoor light for a few hours be fatally confusing for it, or do they acclimate to situations like that?

i realize of course these questions don't have completely clear cut answers, but i'm just looking to get a better qualitative understanding of their behaviors. i tried to search the forum a bunch of times but i'm not sure my questions, especially #1, were answered that specifically. but of course feel free to point me towards threads i might have missed!

thanks!
 
If you free range, set up a shower curtain under all area that he will be. That way water and poop will not get on the floor. You can mist in the free range with the shower curtain and just clean up any pooling water with a towel. Also set up a drip system that drips into a catch bucket that is covered with screen so that he cannot fall in/drink it.

What you can do is get a storage bin container and glue some branches across the inside so that the chameleon can perch. Put the jumping/creepy feeders in it and raise the bucket so that he can feed while in his free range without you having to move him.

If they can see outside they usually go to sleep with the sun and not the lights. I have my lights on a timer so that the lights go on with the sun but I don't have to. :D
 
If you free range, set up a shower curtain under all area that he will be. That way water and poop will not get on the floor. You can mist in the free range with the shower curtain and just clean up any pooling water with a towel. Also set up a drip system that drips into a catch bucket that is covered with screen so that he cannot fall in/drink it.

ok, good idea, thanks.

What you can do is get a storage bin container and glue some branches across the inside so that the chameleon can perch. Put the jumping/creepy feeders in it and raise the bucket so that he can feed while in his free range without you having to move him.

good idea about the storage bin & branches. i am confused as to what you mean by the second part. do you just mean make sure the storage container is at the level of his cage so he wouldn't have to go to the floor to feed? or am i completely misunderstanding?

If they can see outside they usually go to sleep with the sun and not the lights. I have my lights on a timer so that the lights go on with the sun but I don't have to. :D

hehe, ok. hmm... i'll have to see what to do about this. i am fairly nocturnal, so lights out at 6pm would mean very little me-cham bonding time. but then again, that's better for them anyway, so maybe it's a good thing :)

so if they'll fall asleep when the sun goes down outside, then is it ok to have normal room lights on when the cage lights are off? will they sleep ok or is it disorienting?

also, when they're asleep, do they wake up easily? for example, will light music nearby wake them up or will they sleep through it?
 
the methods above are a pain in the ass.... Are you gonna mop up every single day? That doesn't seem practicle at all. I have free range chams and they need more than just a curtain to keep water off the ground.

I would keep the cham in a cage... when you feel like letting him out I would do it for short amounts of time when you are home and I would make sure this free range area has at LEAST a heat lamp and if you can, a UVB lamp. You'll really want the UVB if you plan to leave him in this free range area for an extended amount of time.

If this is a long term free range setup you need to really think out the water delivery and collection process. Chams stay in a free range when all elements are met. Water, food, heat, UVB and something to climb around on. Chams leave the free range in search of these items, if they aren't keeping their attention, so the room or house should be cham proofed. Ya don't wanna leave a frish tank uncovered. yes, they do fall in, and no, they can't swim.

pssh I am not sure what experience you are drawing from....
 
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