BSFL vs Supplements

[PabloTheCham]

The calcium powder i use fades off the crickets pretty fast and leaves a mess in the enclosure and in my room when they escape (they leave messy white trails when they escape) and I was wondering if I can just feed my cham some BSFL instead of the calcium powder?

 

[cyberlocc]

The calcium powder i use fades off the crickets pretty fast and leaves a mess in the enclosure and in my room when they escape (they leave messy white trails when they escape) and I was wondering if I can just feed my cham some BSFL instead of the calcium powder?

You can feed Black Soldier Flys and their Larvae without Dusting them.

You will still need to dust crickets that you feed.

 

[PabloTheCham]

You can feed Black Soldier Flys and their Larvae without Dusting them.

You will still need to dust crickets that you feed.

wouldn't the calcium from the bsfl be enough so I don't have to use calcium on my crix and dubias?

 

[Redman]

Not sure if you have a source already, but one of the vendors here on the site, calcigrubs.com, has great prices and free shipping. I just got some from there and am happy.

 

[cyberlocc]

wouldn't the calcium from the bsfl be enough so I don't have to use calcium on my crix and dubias?

No. Every feeder needs a 2:1 C / P ratio, preferably, BSFLs have that, but they do not have enough to make up for other feeders.

To do that, your looking at Isopods and Snails, and playing with Fire even trying.

 

[PabloTheCham]

Not sure if you have a source already, but one of the vendors here on the site, calcigrubs.com, has great prices and free shipping. I just got some from there and am happy.

I will buy form them next. i just ordered from rainbowmealworms with $8 shipping and it only gets here in a week ??

 

[PabloTheCham]

No. Every feeder needs a 2:1 C / P ratio, preferably, BSFLs have that, but they do not have enough to make up for other feeders.

To do that, your looking at Isopods and Snails, and playing with Fire even trying.

Where do chams get their calcium from in the wild? No one is there to dust their insects. What does he eat in the wild that provides an adequate source of calcium and why are they not commonly sold?

 

[cyberlocc]

Where do chams get their calcium from in the wild? No one is there to dust their insects. What does he eat in the wild that provides an adequate source of calcium and why are they not commonly sold?

Some are sold, some are not.

Plant pests is why. Most of the foods are plant pests and cause issues with farms and such, so they are regulated.

Chams do not eat Crickets and Roaches in the wild. They mostly eat Flies, (all of which are fairly high in Calcium) Snails, Beetles, Bees, other lizards, small birds ect.

 

[PabloTheCham]

Some are sold, some are not.

Plant pests is why. Most of the foods are plant pests and cause issues with farms and such, so they are regulated.

Chams do not eat Crickets and Roaches in the wild. They mostly eat Flies, (all of which are fairly high in Calcium) Snails, Beetles, Bees, other lizards, small birds ect.

What kind of beetles more specifically? I want to use some of these feeders, but I don't know where to get them. The only beetle I found was rice flour beetles. As for snails, can I feed him any snail I find outside, or can they have parasites or something?

 

[cyberlocc]

What kind of beetles more specifically? I want to use some of these feeders, but I don't know where to get them. The only beetle I found was rice flour beetles. As for snails, can I feed him any snail I find outside, or can they have parasites or something?

Flower Beetles, Fruit Beetles, Weevil's, Ladybugs were on a diet chart, but there is alot of species in that genus and most lady bugs are toxic so don't try that one.

Snails, outside I would breed out first. They breed fast, have lots of babies separate the babies. Parasites, they can get Rat Lungworm, which they are intermediate host. Chameleons won't be a host, but in humans and animals it's been shown to cause issues.

The worm crawls into the brain, and then dies. In humans it can cause menegitis and in other animals it's found the same. Whether that would happen to a Chameleon maybe not, but still don't risk.

 

[PabloTheCham]

Flower Beetles, Fruit Beetles, Weevil's, Ladybugs were on a diet chart, but there is alot of species in that genus and most lady bugs are toxic so don't try that one.

Snails, outside I would breed out first. They breed fast, have lots of babies separate the babies. Parasites, they can get Rat Lungworm, which they are intermediate host. Chameleons won't be a host, but in humans and animals it's been shown to cause issues.

The worm crawls into the brain, and then dies. In humans it can cause menegitis and in other animals it's found the same. Whether that would happen to a Chameleon maybe not, but still don't risk.

Ok thanks! i will order some beetles.