Boy or girl?

[BocaJan]

OK, I finally took a pic of my new baby carpets. Since you all did such a good job identifying my adults as babies, what can you tell me about these two sweethearts? Boy or girl? #1 or #2. Neither one has an obvious package.

 

[Lizardlover]

#1 female #2 male

 

[Chase]

#1 female #2 male

I think it is the opposite.

 

[sageghost]

I think it is the opposite.

I agree!!

 

[pssh]

I'm not too good at the sexing game, but it looks like #1 male, #2 female to me.

 

[BocaJan]

At 2 months do they not have a big lump?

 

[pssh]

Chameleons (Furcifer) don't gain a large hemipenal buldge until they reach sexual maturity. However the babies usually have a place for it to grow into, or something along those lines. That's why they can tell the sex of panthers fairly acurately. I'm not too familiar with carpets though, so...

 

[Chase]

At 2 months do they not have a big lump?

I've noticed, that chameleons in the Furcifer genus have rather large hemipenal bulges. And, you usually can spot them at a younger age. So, I can't really see the vent area in pic #1, but #2 is most positively a female. Saying that about pic #1, the area around the vent seems much larger than the one in #2. Hence why I think it is pic1-male, pic2-female.

 

[OldSkoolxReasons]

#1 male because the width of the tail gradually gets thinner as opposed to the quicker thinning on the little green female in pic #2 I'd say I'm 99% sure on this one They look to be in perfect health and are very very colorful. Goo dluck with them


Justin

 

[CleaTheChameleon]

I agree!!

I agree 2 that 1 is male and 2 is female

 

[bridgofaith]

#1 Male
#2 Female

They look great!

 

[Lizardlover]

i thought the males were usually green, I am just basing this on different pictures Ive seen of adults and adults Ive seen in person, maybe this changes with age, atleast Im not just basing it on what everyone else says.

 

[Lizardlover]

i thought the males were usually green, I am just basing this on different pictures Ive seen of adults and adults Ive seen in person, maybe this changes with age, atleast Im not just basing it on what everyone else says.

here is one resource that led me to my answer. the pictures on the bottom are labeled male or female

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...=furcifer+lateralis+lateralis&hl=en&sa=X&um=1

 

[KShook]

#1 is Male and #2 is Female!

 

[samthecham]

Yeah, pic 1 looks like a male based on the larger vent, and 2 seems to be a female due to the smaller vent. I'm just basing my opinions on vent, not color, because color can be misleading.

 

[bridgofaith]

i thought the males were usually green, I am just basing this on different pictures Ive seen of adults and adults Ive seen in person, maybe this changes with age, atleast Im not just basing it on what everyone else says.

here is one resource that led me to my answer. the pictures on the bottom are labeled male or female

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.adcham.com/images/images-species/F.lateralis/FurciferLateralisTananariveF1.j&imgrefurl=http://www.adcham.com/html/taxonomy/species/flateralis.html&usg=__u9l27YU6GT1yPxkVavvDoq5TM1w=&h=240&w=320&sz=56&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=G4f9rmuRhhgKoM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfurcifer%2Blateralis%2Blateralis%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1

You may be correct. I was looking at the thickness at the base of the tail to make my determination. #2 has a much thinner tail base than #1, which you usually see in females.

Thanks for the link.

 

[Trace]

At 2 months do they not have a big lump?

I've bred the Furcifer lateralis major into multi-generations but not the F. lateralis lateralis. In my experience with the former, the babies are easily sexed right out of the egg but after about the first week until about 6 to 8 weeks of age they are almost indiscernible. After that point, it's VERY obvious as to the sexes.

If I had to guess I'd say you have got two females there, but if you could post a better side view pic of the first specimen I could say for sure.

Trace

 

[lucky]

yeah my young panther has rather LARGE bulge for his parts and i dont know about carpets enough to guess