Boise ID. Male panther owners. I'm in need of a stud for my girls.
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cyberlocc
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You did ask for it, by asking for someone to just give you a chameleon, so you can breed it supposedly. When its clear, you are not ready to breed, not anywhere close.
cyberlocc
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Let me guess, your 14 but been breeding since you were 10?
Anyway, Bye. Please no one give this guy a Cham. Or even sell him one.
cyberlocc
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I think you will find that most around here, care about their animals. And they don't sell to people who do not seem capable of their care. This isn't Petco Bud.
Brodybreaux25
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Thank you, I needed that.
Goose502
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He went the “socialist” route? Hasn’t called you a communist or Marxist yet? Sounds like a guy that shows up at Jordon Peterson speeches to try an argue. Just put forward a well thought out breeding plan, include pics of your facility and females, and maybe someone will bite. I’m not saying this guy is full of crap, but he makes it sound as though he is. Hopefully he can provide more info and put us all at ease? 
cyberlocc
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He went the “socialist” route? Hasn’t called you a communist or Marxist yet? Sounds like a guy that shows up at Jordon Peterson speeches to try an argue. Just put forward a well thought out breeding plan, include pics of your facility and females, and maybe someone will bite. I’m not saying this guy is full of crap, but he makes it sound as though he is. Hopefully he can provide more info and put us all at ease?
No need. He got plenty of people hitting him up. He keeps telling me about it in my DMs.
Perhaps by actually being a contributing member of these forums and not attacking everyone here with political and useless references you may have gotten a better response. From your content here I would personally never do business with you because I would wonder how you treat your animals just because of how you treat those in this community and the fact that you "tossed them" before the move... A simple explanation with more details could have gotten many better responses. When you accuse people of being a socialist and using fake news just because they question you makes no sense to me. Please keep your comments non-political and on topic.
For everyone else here, watch your tone. Ask the right questions and don't assume you know everything. This person has been on the forums since 2016, and who knows, may have more experience than you could imagine. There is one way to find out... Have a conversation! I wouldn't have started the thread the way it was done, but when you look at the issue of perhaps urgently needing a mate due to timing, it isn't that far fetched.
I am monitoring this thread and hope that you can be professional in the responses going forward.
For everyone else here, watch your tone. Ask the right questions and don't assume you know everything. This person has been on the forums since 2016, and who knows, may have more experience than you could imagine. There is one way to find out... Have a conversation! I wouldn't have started the thread the way it was done, but when you look at the issue of perhaps urgently needing a mate due to timing, it isn't that far fetched.
I am monitoring this thread and hope that you can be professional in the responses going forward.
salty dog
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One of my concerns are about the op, say I do let him barrow one of my breeder males..... how would I know I will get him back??? Somebodys breeders are a very personal relationship cham - keeper at least thats how I feel, Although I would never loan a breeder male lol...
First I don't believe he threw out his chameleons but actually his extra cages.
Second in the wild there is a breeding season and panther males will be at the height of their color at this time. Artificial lighting or recent relocation above the equator for wild caught can confuse their cycle. If their colors are low their breeding response may be as well. When they color up they should be ready to get busy. I have seen some males that were consistently aggressive with females to the point they couldn't be safely bred. Some much older males get to a point where they lose interest entirely that's how they end up retired from breeding.
Second in the wild there is a breeding season and panther males will be at the height of their color at this time. Artificial lighting or recent relocation above the equator for wild caught can confuse their cycle. If their colors are low their breeding response may be as well. When they color up they should be ready to get busy. I have seen some males that were consistently aggressive with females to the point they couldn't be safely bred. Some much older males get to a point where they lose interest entirely that's how they end up retired from breeding.
janjan20
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Great info!
krikinit
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I wanna talk!
This is absolutely ridiculous... And yall are grown adults and should know better... Everyone acting like toddlers instead of being open and communicating. Attacking each other does nothing. Attacking someone that is new to the forum puts them on guard. So of course they are going to give back what they get. We teach our children not to bully but then I see it here.
This makes me sad that very few people actually offered real help or info. Being open to info goes both ways people. Not only for the Newbies to the forum but for us regulars as well.
This makes me sad that very few people actually offered real help or info. Being open to info goes both ways people. Not only for the Newbies to the forum but for us regulars as well.
Bcostner
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Thank you. Its nice to see a decent person.
I am sorry you had this experience... Jacksjill and ChameleonMike gave some great feedback... Maybe try that out and see if it helps your boy. I have no breeding experience or knowledge so I avoid these threads.
cyberlocc
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While I agree, I don't see this starting out as an attack. Saltydog made a suggestion of why not get another.
OP informed, that he had males and got rid of them, and is rebuilding his caging. That to me, and to salty says he doesn't have cages for these babies. Is that not what you took for that?
So Salty suggested, maybe he should do that, before breeding. Stuff happens and when there is eggs in the incubator that need a cage, they can't have excuses of my car broke down so I couldn't buy cages.
Then the OP replied in a very childish agressive manner, that is when the tables shifted.
That's all excluding the fact, the OP is asking to Borrow Animals, to make Babies that he already shown he doesn't have caging for. That's irresponsible behavior, that's the same type of behavior that has the dog/cat crisis in the state it's in. Then the way, he responded to Salty was uncalled for, and flat out rude. He set the tone of the thread no one else.
To further than same point, as has been said. To Saltys concerns, there was an easy fix.
"Hey thanks for the tip, I have bread before, and I have the proper cages (photo op! Yaaa!), But thank your for your concern"
The way OP reacted proves, that Salty is 100% correct. This guy most likely has no clue what he is doing, does not have the setup required, doesn't have the bugs required by once again his own self admittance. And to the fact, he has been nothing but rude to anyone who dares to suggest he isn't the king breeder.
The reactions are reeking of immaturity, and arrogance. Not saying the OP is young, simply stating the way he is acting makes it seem so. He called me a socialst and blew up my inbox with profanity. He said "Meet me in Real Life" are you not reading the same thread??
You just have not been here long enough to develop the jadedness we have. You have to see the threads where 14 year olds have there clutch in the same 16x16x24 cage they have the male and female in to understand, why we ask questions and politely suggest to slow down.
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