Amibilobe Panther Boy or Girl?

[guacamole2025]

Hey everyone,

I’m new and have just purchased my very first and very sweet amibilobe panther. He was sold to me as a male of around 4/5months old. They said you can see his red starting to come through and he’s just started getting his colours…

I can’t help but wonder though with all the info online that he might actually be a she?

I can’t see any indication of a hemipenal bulge but I know sometimes they can also be super subtle when juvenile.

Colours showing right now range from darker browns and beige to a pastel turquoise and reddish-orange. I am also sure I saw the tiniest tints of green dotted along near his spikes and on his cheek “freckles” today.

Can anyone abit more experienced help better identify his/her sex?

 

[Beman]

Hey there welcome to the forum. This is a little girl. Showing classic female coloring. But if you take a look at her tail she is showing no hemipenial bulge at all. So this is how we would be able to tell that you 100% have a girl not a boy. And at the current size of this baby it is not a situation of it being too small to tell.

She is a very pretty girl. Love her teal blush on her cheeks. Husbandry for a girl is going to change a bit when it comes to temps and feeding amounts. Temps would be max 80 at basking. Then below I am adding the feeding for a female so you have full detail. Basics like UVB and supplementation need to be spot on for girls because of their egg production and to ensure they are very healthy for it.

Females:

As she matures you will have to start cutting back her food. By about 6-7 months she should be getting about 5-8 small feeders each day. At about 7-8 months you want to slowly reduce by cutting down feeder amounts so that she is on a feeding schedule of 3 days a week with 3 feeders. You want them to be on this schedule by the time they are 9-10 months old.


You will not ever want basking to be over 78-80 for her. Very important for females because as she ages she needs this temp no higher at basking to help control the amount of eggs she produces. The hotter the temp the more their metabolism speeds up so we have to keep the temp lower since we are doing lower food intake.

A lay bin should be added as a permanent fixture by the time they are 6 months old so they get used to it and it does not cause stress.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/laying-bin-set-up-educational-video.77225/

https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/veiled-chameleon-laying-101.2488/

 

[guacamole2025]

Hey there welcome to the forum. This is a little girl. Showing classic female coloring. But if you take a look at her tail she is showing no hemipenial bulge at all. So this is how we would be able to tell that you 100% have a girl not a boy. And at the current size of this baby it is not a situation of it being too small to tell.

She is a very pretty girl. Love her teal blush on her cheeks. Husbandry for a girl is going to change a bit when it comes to temps and feeding amounts. Temps would be max 80 at basking. Then below I am adding the feeding for a female so you have full detail. Basics like UVB and supplementation need to be spot on for girls because of their egg production and to ensure they are very healthy for it.

Females:

As she matures you will have to start cutting back her food. By about 6-7 months she should be getting about 5-8 small feeders each day. At about 7-8 months you want to slowly reduce by cutting down feeder amounts so that she is on a feeding schedule of 3 days a week with 3 feeders. You want them to be on this schedule by the time they are 9-10 months old.


You will not ever want basking to be over 78-80 for her. Very important for females because as she ages she needs this temp no higher at basking to help control the amount of eggs she produces. The hotter the temp the more their metabolism speeds up so we have to keep the temp lower since we are doing lower food intake.

A lay bin should be added as a permanent fixture by the time they are 6 months old so they get used to it and it does not cause stress.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/laying-bin-set-up-educational-video.77225/

https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/veiled-chameleon-laying-101.2488/

Thanks so much for your help. I did think so but the breeder assured she was a male!

Either way she is so curious and quite well socialised. Does she look happy and well in the images provided? She does seem to like coming out of the enclosure to explore and climb all my house plants (I have many) but if me handling her in the images show otherwise then would be great to know so I can ensure I don’t stress her out.

 

[Beman]

Thanks so much for your help. I did think so but the breeder assured she was a male!

Either way she is so curious and quite well socialised. Does she look happy and well in the images provided? She does seem to like coming out of the enclosure to explore and climb all my house plants (I have many) but if me handling her in the images show otherwise then would be great to know so I can ensure I don’t stress her out.

She looks really good. Colors are nice calm resting colors so that means she is not showing any signs of stress from being handled. Looks like you got a rare one, most of the time they do not enjoy human interaction. She looks to be healthy as well. Granted we cant see anything internal like parasites. But physically she has a good body tone and does not look to be underweight at all.

I would recommend doing a husbandry review should you be open to it. This will ensure you received all the correct husbandry info for your little girl to ensure you have the best experience as a first time cham keeper. Let us know if you are interested and one of us will see and post it for you to complete.

 

[guacamole2025]

She looks really good. Colors are nice calm resting colors so that means she is not showing any signs of stress from being handled. Looks like you got a rare one, most of the time they do not enjoy human interaction. She looks to be healthy as well. Granted we cant see anything internal like parasites. But physically she has a good body tone and does not look to be underweight at all.

I would recommend doing a husbandry review should you be open to it. This will ensure you received all the correct husbandry info for your little girl to ensure you have the best experience as a first time cham keeper. Let us know if you are interested and one of us will see and post it for you to complete.

I’m so glad to hear. Yes she is very friendly and enjoys climbing right to the top of my head to sit there happily! She does seem to turn the pastel teal and peach colour when she is on me would those be her resting colours?

Would be really helpful to do a husbandry review as I am reading more and I think maybe I have items that aren’t needed and don’t have items I do need. I also want to make sure she is we taken care of so any support/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Beman]

I’m so glad to hear. Yes she is very friendly and enjoys climbing right to the top of my head to sit there happily! She does seem to turn the pastel teal and peach colour when she is on me would those be her resting colours?

Would be really helpful to do a husbandry review as I am reading more and I think maybe I have items that aren’t needed and don’t have items I do need. I also want to make sure she is we taken care of so any support/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Perfect, copy and paste the form below into your reply and answer all the questions. attach images of the entire cage including the lighting on top. Either myself or @MissSkittles will do your husbandry review for you. Per being on top of your head. I would avoid that. It does not give you control should she get spooked and try to jump. Colors there still look ok. She is in a calm stance and not showing a karate chop posture which is more of a back off dont wanna posture.



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