My first dragon was bought at a show, a tiny baby. He grew, and grew and grew. I had no idea at the time what a German giant, was or what size my beardie should be. I kept telling my sister in Missouri how big he was. She had kept beardies for years and kept saying I needed to quit exaggerating. She was amazed when she flew to calif and saw him. LLL hooked me up with someone who bred giants and he happily went off to be a stud. He wanted so much to be friends with my ladies but damn - there was no way. I loved max to pieces and kept him for 2 years before I could finally give him up so he could be with his own kind. I just checked my charts max weighted 9 grams when I bought him, he weighted 1113 when I sold him 2 years later. That is a true German giant. He was also gentle and sweet with me always.