10 gal aquarium

[gngorman]

Is it ok to keep a 4 month old veiled chameleon in a 10 gal aquarium? I know the answer to this question it is just to show my friend that i am not the only one with my opinions. Please be as detailed as you can in your answers on what the set up should be... thnx

 

[pssh]

This thread, in my opinion, is inappropriate.

 

[Ellron]

This thread, in my opinion, is inappropriate.

I agree with Pssh. If you need to know a fact, for whatever reason, you should try to research before you make others do it for you. If you need a thread to settle a disagreement, you obviously don't have enough facts to back up your "theory"

Do some research.

 

[gngorman]

This thread, in my opinion, is inappropriate.

My friend daniel is getting a veiled and he thinks it is ok in a 10, this is not an inapropriate thread....i just want to show him what you all think....Thank You!!!!

 

[Texas Panther Man]

I think he was just wanting to show the other party that other more experienced keepers don't agree with keeping a cham in a ten gallon tank. Sometimes "friends" think they know it all and won't listen to a friend but will listen to educated third parties. Jm exp.

 

[pssh]

Well, I'm sorry if I misunderstood. I just find it odd that you have a friend who wants to keep a 4 month old in a ten gallon right after others responded and told you it was okay (for the circumstances) in another thread where you seemed very pushy about not using one. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.

EDIT: I think I took it the wrong way because your original post was worded differently before you edited it. Sorry.

 

[Julirs]

First of all, chameleons do not belong in aqauriums. Very young-meaning less than 2 months old Veileds and Panthers, pygmies, and smaller species are OK to keep in an appropriate sized Exoterra or other such TERRARIUM, but not an AQUARIUM. AQUARIUMS are designed for FISH-thus the "AQUA" part in the word. A 4 month old Veiled chameleon needs alot of space, esp, if male. I move my male Veileds into 24X24X48 SCREEN CAGES at 4-5 months of age.

 

[dmaizer]

My friend daniel is getting a veiled and he thinks it is ok in a 10, this is not an inapropriate thread....i just want to show him what you all think....Thank You!!!!

i agree, if he needs to prove that his friend is wrong and do the right thing for the chameleon. ITS FINE... and no its not ok to put a veiled in a 10 gal tank.

 

[pssh]

Lol, before he edited it it just said someone, not friend.

 

[RPCV]

I learned the hard way that it is not OK.

A bit of background: I have an advanced degree in epidemiology (study of disease in populations). My areas of expertise are in chemical and microbial exposures to humans. I am a frequent speaker and have authored articles for highly reputable scientific publications on microbial growth in indoor environments and exposure to populations within those environments.

So...in my drive to get the perfect cham setup I purchased a large screen enclosure later to find out it would be way too big for the 2.5 month old cham I was getting. Instead of buying another small screen enclosure I decided to go with a 29 gallon glass aquarium. Figured it would be perfect and help have better control of temperature and humidity until winter passed. Some on this forum advised me against it. But dammit - I know what I'm doing when it comes to controling microbial growth. So I kept him in the glass enclosure. Two weeks ago (cham was 3.5 months old) I spent about $80 on vet bills and a whole bunch hassle and time trying to clear up an upper respiratory infection. My chamleon's infection cleared up (after 2 weeks of treatment). I study humans not reptiles but that did not prevent my ego from getting in the way. I did not listen to those who know chams and got a credit card bill and a bunch of head aches in return.

I know what caused the problem. Lack of ventilation, moisture and organic material in the glass aquarium (and this was 3 times larger than a 10 gallon with more top surface area for air exchange). I've since moved him into his large screen enclosure, am cup feeding and keeping a close eye on him. There are some on this forum that think my enclosure is now too large for a 4 month old.....but dammit, I know what I'm doing .

 

[Jakedn]

I learned the hard way that it is not OK.

A bit of background: I have an advanced degree in epidemiology (study of disease in populations). My areas of expertise are in chemical and microbial exposures to humans. I am a frequent speaker and have authored articles for highly reputable scientific publications on microbial growth in indoor environments and exposure to populations within those environments.

So...in my drive to get the perfect cham setup I purchased a large screen enclosure later to find out it would be way too big for the 2.5 month old cham I was getting. Instead of buying another small screen enclosure I decided to go with a 29 gallon glass aquarium. Figured it would be perfect and help have better control of temperature and humidity until winter passed. Some on this forum advised me against it. But dammit - I know what I'm doing when it comes to controling microbial growth. So I kept him in the glass enclosure. Two weeks ago (cham was 3.5 months old) I spent about $80 on vet bills and a whole bunch hassle and time trying to clear up an upper respiratory infection. My chamleon's infection cleared up (after 2 weeks of treatment). I study humans not reptiles but that did not prevent my ego from getting in the way. I did not listen to those who know chams and got a credit card bill and a bunch of head aches in return.

I know what caused the problem. Lack of ventilation, moisture and organic material in the glass aquarium (and this was 3 times larger than a 10 gallon with more top surface area for air exchange). I've since moved him into his large screen enclosure, am cup feeding and keeping a close eye on him. There are some on this forum that think my enclosure is now too large for a 4 month old.....but dammit, I know what I'm doing .

Out of curiosity, what was the humidity level in the aquarium you had? What temperatures did you have?

 

[RPCV]

Out of curiosity, what was the humidity level in the aquarium you had? What temperatures did you have?

Maintained about 45-50% rh during the day. Spikes of 80% after misting. Dryed out (30%) overnight. Temps between 70 and 82 degrees.

Two things I did not account for:
- The ammount of moisture on the underside of the potted plant (trapped between the plant and the bottom of the aquarium.
- My daughter watching over things while I was traveling for a few days. She takes recycling seriously and decided to pour all the water from the dripper's catch pan into the plant - over watering and 2 days of moisture in the bottom of the aquarium with no dry time.