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nope no pics of that yet. I built a simple frame and took a garbage can lid that I got from Wal-Mart inverted it. Drilled some holes in the low points and put a tight fitting plastic box underneath for extra support and to catch the water.

Here's the pic

So I have just about finished my enclosure. Its 18X18X36 I took an old coffe table and chopped a hole in the middle of it and mounted a drainpan in the coffee table I just need to get a powersun bulb and a cham- I screwed an incandescent it quick to see how it looks. Mister works great...

Chris, I was looking at that book as an option. Hopefully I will get a copy in the next couple months. I'll let everyone know once I get things together.

Thanx for the link that should help- but what would help more would be a concensus on what are the "different" and "same" characteristics between the locales.

sounds good I hope to get a Panther in about two weeks. My enclosure will be finished on Thursday. I want to make sure I have everything ready before I get him.

NICE! I was sure that someone had to know about the use of prayer plants.

I keep replying to myself...well I found an answer sort of. http://www.practical-pet-care.com/article_view.php?ver=3 The Prayer Plant is considered non-toxic on this list- however, it is not edible which the hibiscus, pothos and are. Notice though that it falls into the same category...

Thats the correct link. I am skeptical because of the bright coloration that its not poisonous maybe its a mimic.

Looks like a Greeb June Beetle Cotinis nitida to me. Here is a site that I found with a pic of one

I notieced on the LLLReptile site that Prayer Plants Maranta leuconeura are listed as non toxic. These look a lot like Croton. They turn their leaves up at night to show thier pink/purple undersides. Have any of you tried these with chameleons. They are beautiful plants and would probably do...

Yeah the poster idea sounds very good. Have any of you breeders started doing any DNA analysis? This would be a great way to get a database started.

I need to read my threads before I post. Sorry let me try to explain a metapopulation again. A metapopulation is a large population with small sub-populations within it. So Mdagascar would be the large population and lets say the Nosey Be morph is a small population within it. The small...

Thanx all for the posts. There is defineately fuel for the fire here. Anyone know if there has been work done on DNA for a phylogenic chart? I may try and make one bassed on characteristics see what happens. Obviously I need to start researching a ton. Otherwise I think Im going to try and...

I figured you were shooting with a high caliber just didn't know what. I really like the water and light interations you get as well.

Will, Yes it is very interesting to me considering my educational background B.S. Zoology. What are your theories on this phenotypic phenomenon? This Mr. Love sounds like he's got some theories. I don't know enough about the ecology of Panther's to even make a guess.

Wasabi does have a lot of character. Great pics Zerah! May I ask what kind of camera you are using.

sorry I guess the manuscript that I am working on on stonefly behavior emergence is rubbing off into other arenas of thought.

I was wondering if anyone has read any work regarding alopatric and sympatric populations of the different panther morphs? Why red coloration is more prevalent in this part of the country and blues here etc. What are the stresses for different ends of the spectrum? Is it strictly environmental...

Thats why I asked about the spray paint it seemed like a stupid idea. I have plenty of hardware cloth left over when I need to switch. The sprayer was only used with a dilute soap solution probably arcojet. I am going to give it a really good cleaning before I use it.