why roaches are better.

THECHAMMAN

THECHAMMAN

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hi, im trying everything to get my parents to let me get roaches. ive written a report, and made a presentation. i havent given these to my parents yet as i have to get one more thing to add too it. can any roach owner give me a testimony on how roaches are better than crix and can u list how they are better? PPPPPLLLLLLEEEAAASSSSEEEEE!!!!! thanks in advance.
 
1. They don't stink
2. They are prolific breeders (on their own, no eggs or incubation) and an established colony can feed a cham without additional food purchase (besides some variety)
3. They don't jump, climb, or fly
4. They don't stink
5. You can feed them just about anything
6. They don't stink

Oh, and they don't stink.
 
here it is

DESCRIPTION
Blaptica Dubia roaches are found throughout Central and South America. They come from a warm tropical environment. They are somewhat smaller then Discoids but have a softer exoskeleton than most other roach species. They are sexually dimorphic. The males have large, full wings and the females have short, stubby wings. Their life span is approximately 12-24 months.

MAINTAINCE
They require very low maintenance. They can be kept in a rubbermaid container or glass aquarium and housed with egg crate. We do not use a substrate as it can be difficult to separate small nymphs from the substrate. Dubias enclosures give off very little oder. We use Flex Watt heat tape which we place under the rubbermaid container.

FEEDING
Dubias flourish with a high protein diet supplemented with fruit or vegetables. Water crystals can be used to provide moisture and humidity.

BREEDING
For breeding Dubias do best with daytime temperatures of 85-95 degrees with moderate humidity. They usually reach adulthood at about 3-5 months. If they escape they will not likely reproduce unless they are released into a tropical environment.


That is one of the main reasons I would like to feed roaches to my chameleons mom. Please get over your fear, they are cleaner odorless, slow,cant jump, and they are whats best for my chameleons, they are ¼ heavier than crickets and are the best thing you can feed to your chameleons. Please you know I am responsible with them and they are what is best for my chameleons.
Here are some sources from people who have or do use them as feeders:
I need to correct some information that you got. They said roaches don't climb, yes they do. There are only 1 or 2 that don't, so be careful as to which ones you get. I have the orange spotted or dubias and they are the ones that don't climb or fly or smell or anything. I don't like roaches either but if your mom can put up with the smell of crickets that she will learn to love the roaches. And if any escape they WILL NOT infest the house. They are tropical roaches and unless you give them 85 degree weather in the house during the winter they will die off. If she is that worried, you can get those sticky strips and put them down in the room where you keep them just in case some get loose. Also they are very slow for roaches and even an old lady like me can catch the ones that try to escape. Also you will save alot of money as well because once your colony gets large enough they will breed faster than you can feed them off so you will eventually have to sell some. See so then you can make some money on them as well instead of buying crickets month after month. Is that enough reasons? I bought mine off of someone on the forum and got a great deal.


roaches. they dont stink, most cant climb, most are slow as heck, none can hop, only hissers make noise. and more. dubias are the best staple feeders. the females and the nymphs dont have the stereotypical roach look, but the males do.


oh yeah I would reccomend roaches(dubias) if you don't want the smell. Roaches are more meatier. Roaches are easy to breed. Roaches can't climb out of the plastic container. Roaches can't fly. They will eat more of a variety of food. They tend to like more sweeter foods. Both crickets and roaches are great but they both have there pros and cons. Also, go on my profile and find my post:Crickets or roaches?
I made it so everyone can look back to it and decide for themselves.


i've just bought my second batch of dubias (bought 35 before and 350 this time round!).
They are right what people have said,very clean, quiet, cant jump etc, which is why I like them.
 
wow, i dont think my mom would have ever even got through the first part. She would have probably just given in. kids never cease to amaze me and i'm not that far out from being one.

btw, do these "parent reports" come in a "wife" version?;)
 
So Pirate55 said:
wow, i dont think my mom would have ever even got through the first part. She would have probably just given in. kids never cease to amaze me and i'm not that far out from being one.

btw, do these "parent reports" come in a "wife" version?;)
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ive written many essays to get something. they come in a wife version. though u have to give them to her when shes in a really good mood. haha
 
wow you made me feel good pirate, yeah they come in wife version just copy paste and change the word mom to honey or babe LOL
 
  • Most roaches typically used as cham feeders are less noisy than crickets. Even Madagascar Hissing Roaches (or call them hissing beetles if that makes one less squeemish) are less noisy than male crickets.
  • Most roaches typically used as cham feeders are less likely to infest your house (unless you live in the tropics) than crickets (as these roaches are needing higher temps to reproduce than crickets).
  • Roaches are an economical way to feed your chameleons (reducing your ecological footprint if you raise roaches instead of buying crickets or other bugs which are usually shipped to your local store by airplane and vehicle)
  • Most if not all roaches typically used as cham feeders are more nutritious than crickets. So Chams fed with roaches as a staple food are possibly more healthy than those fed a diet of primarily crickets, hence the chameleon may require fewer vet visits, thus saving $$$$ (not to mention stress on cham and owner).
  • If you have more roaches than you need, you can sell off extra's to fellow reptile keepers, or, just keep your roaches in a cooler spot and reduce reproduction.
  • Most if not all roaches typically used as cham feeders do not stink.
  • Keeping roaches saves time. Most roaches typically used as cham feeders are easy to care for. Most if not all roaches typically used as cham feeders do not have to have their house / bucket cleaned out as often as if you kept similar numbers of crickets.
  • Certain roaches typically used as cham feeders do not climb or fly or jump.
    Even if they can, chances are they will prefer the home/enclosure you provide (provided you give them a good home with all that they need) and will have no reason to attempt escape
  • Beetles (not to mention all the other insects) make up 20% of the earths population anyhow, so mom get used to the fact that bugs, including roaches, already heavily outnumber you/humans - then get a little revenge and try to even the score by feeding them to the chams.
 
Are thier any roaches that dont look like roaches, they freak me out!
what about nyphs, what do they look like?
 
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I like Dubias... My reasons for choosing them....They are quiet, they don't smell, They are incredibly nutritious, They are slow so if I drop one I can easily retrieve it before it disappears, They can't climb or fly, I have no problem picking them up and handling them as they are not hideously disgusting, They breed like crazy so you can save $$$ on feeders costs, They eat anything so they can be gutloaded with whatever you please... There really are too many pluses to list...
 
HAHA my mom finally let me order roaches. after the presentation and the essay, she gave in. i just bought 1000 turkistan roaches from aaronpauling.com
 
i tried the roach thing, but both of my chams just looked at the roach, and then looked at me with a " um what do you want me to do with this look " so i went back to crickets and supers and an waxi for treats
 
sandrachameleon - Do you feed your chams roaches that big? That one is huge!
Does anyone have a good website on raising dubias?
 
BocaJan said:
sandrachameleon - Do you feed your chams roaches that big? That one is huge!
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That's (refering to pic of roach on my hand) just one of the adult females who happens to be quite friendly. I only feed much younger/smaller hissers to the chams. I currently only have 5 chameleons (two more on the way soon!) so I dont need a very large roach colony. So I feed off the vast majority of the nymphs to the chams and my mantids. I dont let too many grow up to adults.
 
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