Worms, worms, and more worms.

[chamlover]

Ok guys this is getting gross. My beautiful Amadeus that i was so worried about (having a URI and was closing his eyes and not eating or drinking or doing anything) is loaded with worms. I just can't figure out how and how so many. I've had him for 8 mos. His first fecal came back clean and because he was suppose to be c/b by a reputable breeder i didn't bother doing another one. I know, i want do that again. When i brought him to the vet this time they did another fecal and said he had roundworms so i started him on Pancur for 3 days. Well he had so many coming out of him i waited 1 day and gave him another dose and SURPRISE. MORE WORMS. And they are big ones too. Gross. I think i should give him another dose tomorrow. i know you are suppose to wait 2 weeks to do another treatment, but with him having so many of them i thought that maybe doing a 3 day treatment then again every other day for 2 weeks might work better. I just don't want to wait another 2 weeks i'm afraid by then he'll have too many and go into toxic shock. What do ya think?:

debby

 

[Nicodemayo]

I dont have experience with panacur but everyone ive talked to that is experienced with the drug using it on WC chams say its a very safe drug and very difficult to overdose on. Maybe chris carter will chime in, he knows his stuff about this drug.

 

[ChromaChameleons]

I won't over ride your vets prescription, but I will tell you my own regime.

When I have a wormy cham , I administer Panacur once every 7 days until no more visible worms are observed. Then I adminsiter every 14 days for 3 more dosages.

Panacur does not kill the worms directly . It blocks carbohydrate absorption of the worms , so that they starve. Administering 3 doses at 14 day intervals after the death of the last worm, endures that any hatching eggs are also destroyed. Panacur can only indirectly kill live worms , not the eggs.

Once thats complete, you may want to do a follow up fecal within 3 months.

 

[CleanLineChameleons]

Panacur is a pretty safe drug, and I will admit that my first experience with it I gave my chameleon ohh about 10x too much, I thought the concentration was a lot more diluted than it was. The chameleon was a little stressed from the overdose but she ended up doing great (and let me say there is no way she has worms...lol) I do know that there are different regimens for Panacur (depending on which parasite you are trying to overcome). So, that being said, I am no vet but I do use my fair share of Panacur and I would say you will be safe doing a 3 day in a row cycle, 3 weeks in a row. If your chameleon loses appetite or vomits then definitely stop the treatment for a few days.

-chris

 

[BocaJan]

Do you have to get Panacur from the vet or can you order it? I have heard you guys talk about all these different treatments and wonder where you get your supply of meds for your herp medicine cabinet.

 

[CleanLineChameleons]

Panacur and Flagyl are two common parasite treatments that I get from the vet. For infections I use Fortaz which I get from the vet. For slight eye issues you can get Terramycin from a feed store.

-chris

 

[ChromaChameleons]

Panacur granules are the easiest to work with when making your own dilution, but , unfortunately it is hard to find. The paste is very widely available , as it is used for horses. Be sure to make a large dilution and toss the excess. Trying to pinch a little paste does not insure you have an accurate assay.

http://www.herpsupplies.com/product.cfm?groupid=14244&id=KV26401

 

[chamlover]

Chroma,

How do you dilute the Panacur? I was told by the vet to use the 10% which is what i used. I ordered that right on line. But i didn't dilute it because he said that 10% ws the right dosage.

And thanks for the input. I think i will try that regiment. 7 days straight or until no more worms come out then repeat.

Debby