Where is the Faly thread?

[clarkrw3]

Clark, this is incorrect. I was responding to a post of yours when it was locked. Like many, I do not keep a thread up continuously.

But let me point out again, your rep to me when I noted the exact same ambanja/Faly points to another person's Faly a month ago. You and Rob have always been fiine with going after other folks product.

As for all my animals. None are above reproach. Anyone should be able to post a dissent, if done in a civil manner. I have no fear of disagreement.

Last night, I used pictures. Others added more pictures. Of WC's. Why the recoil from doing so ?

We had a thread about WC a while back and questioning whether they were pure. This thread was about CB animals and what they look like. You posted in a straight up inflammatory way on a thread "that you didn't know was Rob's animal" that says it's Rob's animal in the title. I mean come on...and yet you still haven't made it over to post in the fauna thread.
I have, I believe the biggest male from this clutch and I don't know ANYONE but maybe you that says he looks anything but 100% pure. That includes someone on the island. Lets put up a poll of a bunch of the animals you have produced from Iceman and these animals and see what people say about it when it's anonymous.

 

[robmd1]

Clark. Perhaps you have time to comment on every post. The thead locked while I was replying to one of your posts.

Look. The evidence is there. You have supported the questioning of the bloodlines of others animals. But then went a bit awry with folks questioning yours in the same manner.

I could care less if some folks have civll disagreements wiht my bloodlines. So what for chrissakes

you havent provided any evidence just alot of hot air jim.. can you post pictures of the falys youve produced jim so we can all see what a faly is poseta look like then? Jim why not go over to fauna an talk about it on the thread there this site isnt for this kinda thing? can you tell everyone why you cant go over there ??

 

[Sticktongue]

you havent provided any evidence just alot of hot air jim.. can you post pictures of the falys youve produced jim so we can all see what a faly is poseta look like then? Jim why not go over to fauna an talk about it on the thread there this site isnt for this kinda thing? can you tell everyone why you cant go over there ??

I'd like to see pictures of your falys jim, and rob.. Could you post pictures of yours also? Lets get them all on one thread

 

[robmd1]

I'd like to see pictures of your falys jim, and rob.. Could you post pictures of yours also? Lets get them all on one thread

i have alot of pics which ya wanna see adults or babies ive produced from the adults i have plenty of macro pics of both. all documented an he calls em crosses when i still havent seen one pic of a faly hes produced. like ive said im really sick of all the drama an even when im bein good the lil posse tries to rile things up when it isnt ment for here.

 

[clarkrw3]

Here they are again for as long as it lasts for reference he is 22.6g in these photos and is 26.8g today

and one showing the developing split rostral

and one for ref.

 

[Chameleon Company]

If I remember correctly you peas in a pod , I commented about Tom's animal. Either I had not gotten to a picture of the sire yet, or it had not been posted yet.

Regardless, both of you have joined in discussions about the purity of the stock of others. Including mine. Many of us are OK when done somewhat civilly. That would be different from the PM's that I received from Rob last night, the late night obscene phone calls others have gotten. Is that not a bit over the top ?

That is pretty screwed up.

 

[diablocham]

I dont know what to say: but i think whenever u going to get a new cham,,theres always the risk of something like that happens,ON FALYS,NOSE BES,ANKARAMY,MITSIO,ITS HARD,CAUSE IF U SEE A DIFF,TINY CHANGE OF COLOR,,WHATS THE FIRST U GOING TO THINK,,,,ITS NOT PUREEE,,,,IF BEEN THEREbut if ur the breeder and u say its x,,ill believed u,(CAUSE UR THAT ONE THAT KNOWS),,,THERES NO WAY FOR ME 2 KNOW UNTIL HE GROW

 

[Sticktongue]

i have alot of pics which ya wanna see adults or babies ive produced from the adults i have plenty of macro pics of both. all documented an he calls em crosses when i still havent seen one pic of a faly hes produced. like ive said im really sick of all the drama an even when im bein good the lil posse tries to rile things up when it isnt ment for here.

How about both?

 

[drcrossfire]

If I remember correctly you peas in a pod , I commented about Tom's animal. Either I had not gotten to a picture of the sire yet, or it had not been posted yet.

Regardless, both of you have joined in discussions about the purity of the stock of others. Including mine. Many of us are OK when done somewhat civilly. That would be different from the PM's that I received from Rob last night, the late night obscene phone calls others have gotten. Is that not a bit over the top ?

That is pretty screwed up.

As a third party... Yes this is screwed up...

Though I would like to hear your response to the iceman line, as well as the letter that was sent, and posted on fauna.

I don't think this should be a grudge match a few members have made it out to be... Please be civil to each other.

I ask you to respond to this as I have one of this line, and would like some clarification

Thanks,

Dan

If you would prefer to pm me on the matter, please feel free.

 

[robmd1]

If I remember correctly you peas in a pod , I commented about Tom's animal. Either I had not gotten to a picture of the sire yet, or it had not been posted yet.

Regardless, both of you have joined in discussions about the purity of the stock of others. Including mine. Many of us are OK when done somewhat civilly. That would be different from the PM's that I received from Rob last night, the late night obscene phone calls others have gotten. Is that not a bit over the top ?

That is pretty screwed up.

jim go over to fauna an lets really talk about this instead of tryen to get me banned from here. you have yet to post any pics of the offspring you claim are faly as you say mine are crosses post em up jim. an after your email lastyear i have zero respect for you jim.

 

[diablocham]

If I remember correctly you peas in a pod , I commented about Tom's animal. Either I had not gotten to a picture of the sire yet, or it had not been posted yet.

Regardless, both of you have joined in discussions about the purity of the stock of others. Including mine. Many of us are OK when done somewhat civilly. That would be different from the PM's that I received from Rob last night, the late night obscene phone calls others have gotten. Is that not a bit over the top ?

That is pretty screwed up.

this is going to far,,,its only a discussion,and i really understand every point,,,,but by the end of the day,ur not going to change anything,,, everything its going to be the same,,,

 

[robmd1]

If I remember correctly you peas in a pod , I commented about Tom's animal. Either I had not gotten to a picture of the sire yet, or it had not been posted yet.

Regardless, both of you have joined in discussions about the purity of the stock of others. Including mine. Many of us are OK when done somewhat civilly. That would be different from the PM's that I received from Rob last night, the late night obscene phone calls others have gotten. Is that not a bit over the top ?

That is pretty screwed up.

it isnt regaurdless jim you said you didnt know it was a faly from me but it was rite in the title sucks bein caught in a lie but i guess when thats all ya do ya stick toit huh.

 

[clarkrw3]

Just to be ON the record until it gets deleted: I DIDN'T CALL OR EMAIL OR PM ANYONE LAST NIGHT!!! I TXT'D A COUPLE PEOPLE BUT NOT JIM!!!

 

[Trace]

I don’t want this thread to turn into a he said/she said thing or it will get closed as well.

I’m serious though when I say I’d like an adult discussion about the locality. A new thread that perhaps mentions the history, what to look for in a true Faly, the future within the hobby, some different perspectives etc. A round table perhaps? Would that be of some benefit? Or would it just end up heavily moderated or closed?

I will probably rue the fact that I involved myself in this thread.

I need to reiterate what I said earlier.

 

[drcrossfire]

I will probably rue the fact that I involved myself in this thread.

I need to reiterate what I said earlier.

Thanks ....

 

[robmd1]

Just to be ON the record until it gets deleted: I DIDN'T CALL OR EMAIL OR PM ANYONE LAST NIGHT!!! I TXT'D A COUPLE PEOPLE BUT NOT JIM!!!

I didnt either its jim spreading lies an its gettin pathetic already

 

[robmd1]

I will probably rue the fact that I involved myself in this thread.

I need to reiterate what I said earlier.

hey ive tried to get him to go where this belongs but he wont he sits here an does it it isnt my fault. but i wont sit an let a lair lie. told ya trace id love to have a real conversation about all this bs but for that to happen its gotta be truth told not lies an unproven bs.. if you cant get them to tell the truth theres no point

 

[Red7ny1]

 

[Chameleon Company]

Just to be ON the record until it gets deleted: I DIDN'T CALL OR EMAIL OR PM ANYONE LAST NIGHT!!! I TXT'D A COUPLE PEOPLE BUT NOT JIM!!!

Correct. That it what Rob is on record having done.

 

[Chameleon Company]

LOL .... folks, I am not only not a member of Fauna, but I took significant serious issue with the owner there many years ago, and he banned me. I was highly critical of someone who a few then thought was in good standing. And I was banned. That entity ended up being found out to have ripped off some overseas buyers of over $120K. And is now long gone from the reptile business. Gecko folks know of whom I speak. I will not return to that cesspool.

I know that this forum is considering a way to better address Faly's than it has happened in the past. For instance, I saw a post above where the split rostrum was listed as a characteristic trait ? Did I get that correct ?

I am waiting for some feedback from management, but such would be the best place for photos and mandatory civil discussion. I and others did post photos yesterday.