What's the longest successful incubation time on panther chameleon eggs??????

[Chameleon Kingdom]

I'm curious to see how long the longest successful incubation time has been for panther chameleons. What has been your personal experiences, if you don't mind sharing, I'd appreciate it. We have eggs that are 13 months old and still show no signs of life, nor do they look bad either though. I'm curious to know if they may be a lost cause. I'm going to keep them until thay hatch or shrivel. Though some people say that they make come out mentaly retarded. I wonder????? Thanks in advance,

Cyndi

 

[pohchunyee]

I think Tyler from Blue Beast had an egg for 13 months+ incubation

 

[TylerStewart]

I had some go 15 months before they started hatching... I've also had half of a clutch hatch at the normal (for me) 8-9 months, and the other half of the clutch hatch out around month 13. I average about 8-10 months, which I attribute to keeping them at a little higher than average temperature... My eggs get up to around 78-79 in the summer months. Ideally, I'd be keeping them at 72-73.

I have a few Ambanja eggs that were laid in June of 2006 and still haven't hatched... The rest of the clutch hatched months ago and has been completely sold, but there's about 5 eggs that are bright white still sitting there. I don't really have high hopes, but time will tell!

 

[Dave Weldon]

Howdy,

It seems that something like a double diapause may be what extends egg incubation times. Some keepers have had success at maintaining what might be described as a "normal" incubation schedule by slightly increasing the incubation temperature as well as a slight increase in humidity after 6-7-8 months. It may only take a couple of degrees and maybe a 5%-10% increase in humidity to trigger the same affects as the arrival of Spring. Sounds like a science project for someone with a large batch of eggs that can be separated into several simulated environmental conditions .

Wasn't there a posting about research done on the affects of temp and humidity on incubation time? I think the post was many months ago...

 

[Chameleon Kingdom]

Anyone else have a long successful hatch rate? What's the average hatch rate? Anyone want to share info on hatching their panthers?

What about also, Ankaramy "pink panthers"? Do they need to be treated any different than the more common locals??

 

[TreelionsUK]

Yes i had a group go a painful 14 months they were sambava,and every baby was strong and all of them made it!! i had some very short incubations too and i find the babies from the quick incubations are weaker and tend not to feed so well and i normally lose a few
Dont give up im sure they will be fine

 

[Chuck G]

I have had several clutches that went 13 and 14 months before hatching.
The Ambilobes and Ambanjas have been right on time but Nosy Mitsios,Nosy Be,Ankaramy, and Sambavas have been the longest. www.heroicchameleons.com

 

[PardalisGirl]

Good Topic.....

This is a good topic.....I have a few eggs that are in the 12 to 14 month range. They are single eggs in a container by themselves. Either the rest of their clutch already hatched out or the rest of their clutch went bad. These single eggs still look good. I'm just going to keep them until they hatch or shrivel. I've recently heard from a couple of sources that Ankaramy eggs take a little longer than other locales. Like an average of 12 months. I have several Ankaramy clutches. In one clutch there are over twenty eggs. The clutch was laid six months ago. All except for one look white and at the same stage. This one egg in the clutch has grown much bigger and is colored differently. You can actually see that there is a developing neonate in it. It looks like it is going to hatch out earlier than the rest. This same thing happened with the one Andapa clutch I have. One male and one female hatched out at the end of August. The other eggs are just hanging out in the incubator. They don't look close to hatching yet. It sure makes it hard to plan caging needs when things hatch out like that. I wish I could figure out what causes these differences in hatching times. It can't be just a temperature thing, at least in my case. Thanks for starting this thread. It's an interesting one

 

[Chameleon Kingdom]

Thanks for the replies so far, does anyone else want to share info? I'd really like to get a general view from as many people as possible,

 

[Vibrant Chameleons]

This is a good topic.....I have a few eggs that are in the 12 to 14 month range. They are single eggs in a container by themselves. Either the rest of their clutch already hatched out or the rest of their clutch went bad. These single eggs still look good. I'm just going to keep them until they hatch or shrivel. I've recently heard from a couple of sources that Ankaramy eggs take a little longer than other locales. Like an average of 12 months. I have several Ankaramy clutches. In one clutch there are over twenty eggs. The clutch was laid six months ago. All except for one look white and at the same stage. This one egg in the clutch has grown much bigger and is colored differently. You can actually see that there is a developing neonate in it. It looks like it is going to hatch out earlier than the rest. This same thing happened with the one Andapa clutch I have. One male and one female hatched out at the end of August. The other eggs are just hanging out in the incubator. They don't look close to hatching yet. It sure makes it hard to plan caging needs when things hatch out like that. I wish I could figure out what causes these differences in hatching times. It can't be just a temperature thing, at least in my case. Thanks for starting this thread. It's an interesting one

I sometimes wonder if egg spacing in the medium plays any part in hatch times or hatch rates. I'm going to do an experiment sometime, instead of laying the eggs lengthwise like normal, I`m going to try placing them vertical in the medium and see if that makes any difference. Maybe place half the clutch vertical and half horizontal.

 

[kinyonga]

To some extent spacing the eggs further apart plays a part in the length of time the eggs are incubated...but only in that they don't all hatch at once when spaced apart. I know this isn't quite what you are looking at though.

 

[Chameleon Kingdom]

Just thought I'd bring this back up to see if I can get anymore replies!

 

[Dean Pulcini]

I keep my eggs at 74 on the dry side but still wet and they hatch at about 9 months. When I add a little water after about 7 months it signals the the babies its a good time to break out. One time I added water and the clutch started hatching early at 8 months. Never had a clutch go longer then 10 months.