Watering with ice cubes

[baby2by2]

Just listening ;;;;;;

I have the dripper and also went to home depot and bought stream dipper item #13158881143 5 in a package and made my own drippers $ 2.94 for 5 they are black in the plumbing dept. but...........you need to put O rings on each side of the container using a plastic that is not flexiable like for example Maxwell House coffee. The size of the O-rings #60 10/pk.$2.27 but.........making the hole must be round and flat and also having force to push into the container :cool( dripper ) hole so no water will leak out also the container that icing comes in is a good plastic and I also keep something covering in so nothing crawls into there water.

 

[burnedrose]

Regarding ice cubes - if I am working a long shift (10+ hours) I will use ice cubes because I KNOW my dripper will run out by hour 9 or 10. I've told roommates to help me and keep an eye on it, but it's unfair to them to watch MY pets. So I will actually fill the dripper with ice cubes. By the time they melt, it's pretty warm, but it also drips slower, giving me some extra time to get home. It's also convienent if I'm doing an overnight trip and need to use extra water. Another trick is to place a small square of paper towels under my dripper hole, and let the water filter through, but thats rather messy.

Having said that, it is NOT a regular occurance for me. It happens because I can't be home for my cham when I need to and it's the last resort to keeping my humidity up (which, for some reason, is extremely difficult in my room).

Now, I do have to say, this attitude on the forums is what actually scares me from asking for help. People get very angry and judgemental over something as simple as water. Just tell us what you do and why - no need to attack others. If you disagree with their methods, tell us why you disagree, instead of getting angry. It's intimidating to new and old people alike to see our moderators and site leads get frustrated over an issue they have with someone over another topic. If you disagree, do so, but respectfully. /end rant /give peace a chance /kumbaya

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

Burnedrose - I am sorry you feel intimidated about asking for help or sharing ideas on the forum. This is not the typical response to a question asked by far. This particular person has gone out of his way to stir the pot and intentionally insult others to start an argument. And he has expressed his lack of interest in providing optimal care for his chameleons, and that is something that is not tolerated. Normally people on the forums are much nicer, but this person has done a good job of angering many people very quickly. If you ever have a question you are uncomfortable asking you can always PM me!

 

[baby2by2]

Reptile Show Tampa

They put ice on there cage there is was very hot in the place Tampa in June and they were very small veiled chameleon and my son said something to me about it and the ice and just said yeah and let it go at that .

 

[lysinlight87]

Now, I do have to say, this attitude on the forums is what actually scares me from asking for help. People get very angry and judgemental over something as simple as water. Just tell us what you do and why - no need to attack others. If you disagree with their methods, tell us why you disagree, instead of getting angry. It's intimidating to new and old people alike to see our moderators and site leads get frustrated over an issue they have with someone over another topic. If you disagree, do so, but respectfully. /end rant /give peace a chance /kumbaya

This is the point I was trying to make, it's not fair on other members who see a simple question turn into a slanging match. how they supposed to know it's cos people don't like the OP?

 

[Psychobunny]

Hmmm, I'm not going to touch the ice cube debate, but I will say that I do notice a more positive response from my chams when I heat the water in the microwave vs room temp.
When it's warm, they will not freak out and run away, they will enjoy it, and that means they are more likely to drink.

My jacksons would not drink when I first got him until I put him in the warm shower to stimulate him and sort of "kick start" his thirst.

Chams dont drink when they are stressed, cold water can certainly stress them.
It's not always obvious when they are stressed (puffing up, etc.).
Sometimes they look relaxed and chilled, but they are actually stressed out!!

In fact, I have always seen such a negative reaction to even room temp water that I would never have thought of ice cubes!!

A dripper is a no-brainer to make from scratch from free junk already sitting around your home.

 

[reefercheefer]

Icecubes are fine if you have time to monitor it and when it's all melted to keep adding more. I don't have the luxury of watching over my Chams all day long.

I offer a dripper for the majority of my away time and i have a misting system.(best investment i have ever made and you will agree too when you start keeping more Chams) Especially in the summer time.

I would consider icecubes a treat and not a form of hydration.

I understand that you will be hatching some Chams in a few months. Will you be using the icecube and handmisting to hydrate them also?

No i dont think i would be using ice cubes for neonates considering how fragile they are. once they get established well i may which but if i have a mist king then i dont see a reason in going back. I was actually thinking about investing in a mist king just soley for that purpose. But thats a year from now, the only think i purchased so far is a screen cage, decor and lighting. I was also thinking about starting up a dubia or cricket colony. I just cant get over the stench that comes with even having 50 crickets in the cricket keeper at one time. I dont own my own home so i dont have the space luxury right now. pretty much have a 4x2x2 that holds my male and two 18x18x24 in a 13x20 bed room. im slowly running out of space ha

 

[reefercheefer]

Regarding ice cubes - if I am working a long shift (10+ hours) I will use ice cubes because I KNOW my dripper will run out by hour 9 or 10. I've told roommates to help me and keep an eye on it, but it's unfair to them to watch MY pets. So I will actually fill the dripper with ice cubes. By the time they melt, it's pretty warm, but it also drips slower, giving me some extra time to get home. It's also convienent if I'm doing an overnight trip and need to use extra water. Another trick is to place a small square of paper towels under my dripper hole, and let the water filter through, but thats rather messy.

Having said that, it is NOT a regular occurance for me. It happens because I can't be home for my cham when I need to and it's the last resort to keeping my humidity up (which, for some reason, is extremely difficult in my room).

Now, I do have to say, this attitude on the forums is what actually scares me from asking for help. People get very angry and judgemental over something as simple as water. Just tell us what you do and why - no need to attack others. If you disagree with their methods, tell us why you disagree, instead of getting angry. It's intimidating to new and old people alike to see our moderators and site leads get frustrated over an issue they have with someone over another topic. If you disagree, do so, but respectfully. /end rant /give peace a chance /kumbaya

Easiest way to start a arguement on the internet is... state an opinion. I noticed how everyone is the first day i started on this forum.

 

[reefercheefer]

Hmmm, I'm not going to touch the ice cube debate, but I will say that I do notice a more positive response from my chams when I heat the water in the microwave vs room temp.
When it's warm, they will not freak out and run away, they will enjoy it, and that means they are more likely to drink.

My jacksons would not drink when I first got him until I put him in the warm shower to stimulate him and sort of "kick start" his thirst.

Chams dont drink when they are stressed, cold water can certainly stress them.
It's not always obvious when they are stressed (puffing up, etc.).
Sometimes they look relaxed and chilled, but they are actually stressed out!!

In fact, I have always seen such a negative reaction to even room temp water that I would never have thought of ice cubes!!

A dripper is a no-brainer to make from scratch from free junk already sitting around your home.

Thanks ill try warming water and see how they like it. If i notice a change i may adopt your method

 

[Trillian]

I'm working on a dubia colony, and have started a cricket colony too. The dubias don't smell at all, not compared to the crickets. They are very clean and dry, the only smell would come from food that was left in there too long, so I check them regularly! It's definitely worth you considering, though they aren't as quick and tempting as crickets, so chameleons can take a bit of encouraging to eat them! Or set up a feeder with a mesh back so the dubias can run up and down and look a bit more tempting.

 

[Carlton]

Now, I do have to say, this attitude on the forums is what actually scares me from asking for help. People get very angry and judgemental over something as simple as water. Just tell us what you do and why - no need to attack others. If you disagree with their methods, tell us why you disagree, instead of getting angry. It's intimidating to new and old people alike to see our moderators and site leads get frustrated over an issue they have with someone over another topic. If you disagree, do so, but respectfully. /end rant /give peace a chance /kumbaya

burnedrose, the vast majority of threads on this forum are very civil. Hardly any of them turn into pissing matches. Compared to other forums I've been on over the years it stands out a lot. Curious about your post above, I went back to the beginning of this thread and started re-reading the responses to it. I didn't see any anger or rudeness...just differences of opinion on watering techniques with explanations. Unfortunately, the OP then made a statement about chams' ability to adapt to any situation they happened to be in which is simply not true, so others reacted with concern for his methods.

The problem is, for many this is a passion, and passion means emotions. If people didn't care they wouldn't put as much energy into the forum. I don't think it's possible to keep emotion out of a community like this entirely. Some members are better at controlling themselves than others. Gee, sounds like life to me.

 

[ShipYourReptiles]

Interesting discussion, from a couple of angles.

 

[sandrachameleon]

I was also thinking about starting up a dubia or cricket colony. I just cant get over the stench that comes with even having 50 crickets in the cricket keeper at one time. I dont own my own home so i dont have the space luxury right now. pretty much have a 4x2x2 that holds my male and two 18x18x24 in a 13x20 bed room. im slowly running out of space ha

You'll find a roach colony less stinky than adult crickets (at least I do).
But you'll probably want to have crickets producing at least some pinheads to help feed all the babies.
Fruit flies (the medium) doesnt usually smell awesome either - although adding cinnimon or using Repashy fruit fly medium can help in that regard.

Once you have babies, you're going to need more space. Especially once they are a month old and you have to start separating the big bullies from the slower growing ones.