Veiled/ yemen chameleon id help

Decadancin

Moderatoris Americanus
Staff member
From what I can see they would be translucent, but they are very small. They come in low and high versions.
 

Syreptyon

Chameleon Enthusiast
I think... And I could be wrong here, but I think that there is a semantic difference between "piebald" and "translucent." My understanding is that the translucent gene is more specific than piebaldism. Translucent veileds typically have their off-color markings localized to the head and limbs, whereas true piebald animals show the color mutation throughout their body and not just in specific areas. I also seem to recall that piebald animals result from recessive mutations, whereas translucency in veileds is a co-dominant allele or something like that... I'm at work or I'd fact check myself, but take that with a grain of salt
 

Decadancin

Moderatoris Americanus
Staff member
I think... And I could be wrong here, but I think that there is a semantic difference between "piebald" and "translucent." My understanding is that the translucent gene is more specific than piebaldism. Translucent veileds typically have their off-color markings localized to the head and limbs, whereas true piebald animals show the color mutation throughout their body and not just in specific areas. I also seem to recall that piebald animals result from recessive mutations, whereas translucency in veileds is a co-dominant allele or something like that... I'm at work or I'd fact check myself, but take that with a grain of salt
So I think you are correct, except I think this is still a recessive gene. I don't think that there are any actual pied chameleons, but I could be wrong. I have seen translucent veileds labeled as piebald, but I don't think this is accurate.
 

Thehippie

Chameleon Enthusiast
what cuties! a lot of high white trans chams sell for what seems like $90 at about 1 month to 2 month year olds or at least that's what some websites say
 

Chris Anderson

Dr. House of Chameleons
Staff member
Pied and translucent have both been used to describe this trait. They are referring to the same thing in Veiled Chameleons. With regard to the inheritance of this trait, it is not completely understood, but in general it does appear to be a codominant trait. It is possible, however, that it is actually multiple, possibly linked, traits, which would explain why there is some suggestion that a simple Normal, Low-expression (heterozygous translucent), High-expression (homozygous translucent) dichotomy is not shown, but that crosses between high-expression animals can yield results aside from 100% high-expression equivalent to the parents.

Chris
 
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