veiled to ambilobe transition

PITBULL

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I'm planning on raising and possibly breeding some ambilobe chams. I have raised but never bred jackson and veils on and off for the past 15 years. How much more difficult is it to keep panthers and breeding them. Before the flaming begins, I'm not planning on breeding for the profit just the fun and experience of doing so. I know its going to cost time money which i'm prepared for. This plan will not be carried out until I get back from vacation in a couple months but I'm trying to prepare now. I will have possibly a trio of 2 females and 1 male or 1:1 depending on what is available to me. The male of course will have his own screened 72x24x24 enclosure and i'm debating on keeping the 2 females together in the same sized enclosure or separate, any suggestions on that? I hear 2 sides its ok to keep females together and the other side says no. And as for babies, I have many aquariums (from old fish hobby) which I will build DIY screened cage toppers to provide both the humidity of the tank and the free air from the topper. And eggs raised in a DIY incubator which plans were given to me by my old high school teacher that raises exotic snakes. And lastly I raise my own crickets and will have ff's available for babies. I guess maybe I could of broken this topic up into different threads lol so mods place this where you see fit. So, any suggestions? Are they any different from raising jackson or veils and does my personal breeding project sound like I'm ready or lacking?
 
Your male will need a larger cage and the female will need seperate enclosures. Jann


Ok thanks, but what would you recommend being a correct size for a single male panther cham? Everywhere I've searched online shows a 48x24x24 is sufficiant for life I'm adding a full 24" in height. I have the room and resources for a bigger enclosure but obviously my research in minimum size enclosures must be incorrect. Please fill me in with correct dimensions and thanks for the quick response! :D
 
So sorry I misread your post. 72x24x24 is plenty big for a male. Most babies are kept in plastic tubs.
 
So sorry I misread your post. 72x24x24 is plenty big for a male. Most babies are kept in plastic tubs.

lol its ok it happens. would the babies be ok in the tanks with toppers? I have a range of 10 gallon - 30 gallon tanks which i would just double in height with a cage topper. I just think it would be easier to monitor their activities then a plastic tub. also i tried to pm you but because i'm a noob it wont let me so i'll just post it here......

sorry but i didnt want to derail the thread. can you recommend any places near tampa fl that sells chams or anywhere in fl? thats where i plan on taking my vacation and maybe pick up a nice male or female that way when i get back there will very slim chances of inbreeding. and do you think a 20-24 hr car ride will be ok for a cham?
 
Id get seperate cages for the females. I use 18X18X36 for my females. They rarely venture around much. My adult males are in 24x24x48 and are usually almost moving about.

The larger screen cage you have the harder its going to be maintain proper heat and humidity.
 
lol its ok it happens. would the babies be ok in the tanks with toppers? I have a range of 10 gallon - 30 gallon tanks which i would just double in height with a cage topper. I just think it would be easier to monitor their activities then a plastic tub. also i tried to pm you but because i'm a noob it wont let me so i'll just post it here......

sorry but i didnt want to derail the thread. can you recommend any places near tampa fl that sells chams or anywhere in fl? thats where i plan on taking my vacation and maybe pick up a nice male or female that way when i get back there will very slim chances of inbreeding. and do you think a 20-24 hr car ride will be ok for a cham?

Got your PM and I sent you one back.
 
So do you guy/gals think I'm ready for the switch with the exception of making the cage 48" instead of 72"? Sorry jannb for the mix up, I'm so used to posting sizes of fish tanks lol.
 
Thanks bocajan, I think I'm ready, well at least when I get back from vacation, but just for the sake of an amazing creature, I guess I'm just looking for assurance. But then again, thats what this forum is for to gather information when in need :D
 
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