Unable to walk?
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AngieL
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Ask your vet to contact the royal dick vet school in Edinburgh for guidelines. If its the wrong time for oxytocin they should be able to give you further advice!
Kate
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I can't advise as I have no experience with females. What a horrible situation you were in. Did you go to the same vet? At least you now know what was wrong. I guess you can assess the situation tomorrow.
I went to a normal vet near where i live. They were one of only a few prepared to give her an x-ray.
The only thing I can do is ring the initial vets tomorrow to see if the specialist is back of her holiday. If not then I am stuck
I hate to say this but is it getting to the stage when it would be best for her to put her down? if she won't get better then it would be best to end her pain.
The only thing I can do is ring the initial vets tomorrow to see if the specialist is back of her holiday. If not then I am stuck
I hate to say this but is it getting to the stage when it would be best for her to put her down? if she won't get better then it would be best to end her pain.
camimom
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I went to a normal vet near where i live. They were one of only a few prepared to give her an x-ray.
The only thing I can do is ring the initial vets tomorrow to see if the specialist is back of her holiday. If not then I am stuck
I hate to say this but is it getting to the stage when it would be best for her to put her down? if she won't get better then it would be best to end her pain.
If you get the oxytocinin in her soon, she will lay and be fine.
If not, you can havea vet perform surgery, go in, remove the eggs and reproductive organs, then she can be fine.
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shes not on deaths door yet, and can recover just fine, but she needs to get the eggs out, one way or the other.
Kate
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Will the vet be willing to operate if she doesn't lay?
Yep, knew there were eggs in there!
That's best case scenario. It's not guaranteed to be successful though. She may still not be able to lay even with oxytocin for a few reasons: the eggs are overcalcified so can't be pushed out, not enough systemic calcium to make adequate muscle contractions to push eggs out, or simply refusing to lay them due to inadequate lay bin conditions or missed window of opportunity.
It's hard to say. If the eggs are overcalcified, or she is deficient in calcium, or there is just a huge number of eggs then sooner rather than later is best because she won't be able to lay them regardless. You are kind of stuck in a difficult position because she went and did this right around the holidays! She's not critical yet, but she's headed that direction. Another dose of oxytocin can be given tomorrow morning to see if it will be effective and it should really be after a dose of liquid calcium. Oxytocin stimulates the muscles to contract, and the muscles require calcium for that. So that would be best. If she starts acting lethargic, stops eating/drinking or acting a lot weaker then she's an emergency and needs to go to surgery asap. If it were me I would start calling around tomorrow looking for a reptile vet comfortable with performing chameleon spays. I have a feeling she is going to need it unfortunately. As long as she is doing okay it can wait a few days, but the sooner the better.
That's best case scenario. It's not guaranteed to be successful though. She may still not be able to lay even with oxytocin for a few reasons: the eggs are overcalcified so can't be pushed out, not enough systemic calcium to make adequate muscle contractions to push eggs out, or simply refusing to lay them due to inadequate lay bin conditions or missed window of opportunity.
It's hard to say. If the eggs are overcalcified, or she is deficient in calcium, or there is just a huge number of eggs then sooner rather than later is best because she won't be able to lay them regardless. You are kind of stuck in a difficult position because she went and did this right around the holidays! She's not critical yet, but she's headed that direction. Another dose of oxytocin can be given tomorrow morning to see if it will be effective and it should really be after a dose of liquid calcium. Oxytocin stimulates the muscles to contract, and the muscles require calcium for that. So that would be best. If she starts acting lethargic, stops eating/drinking or acting a lot weaker then she's an emergency and needs to go to surgery asap. If it were me I would start calling around tomorrow looking for a reptile vet comfortable with performing chameleon spays. I have a feeling she is going to need it unfortunately. As long as she is doing okay it can wait a few days, but the sooner the better.
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We have identified three vets to ring in the morning. She will have oxytocin and liquid calcium in the morning with the possibility of surgery in the afternoon. She has not eaten today but she is drinking plenty. Her grip is also very strong. Other good news is that she has backed into a pre dug tunnel. She is in about halfway. I know I'm being optimistic but let's hope I wake to a empty chameleon.
Thanks again for your help.
If it wasn't for this forum I would have believed it to be constipation.
Thanks again for your help.
If it wasn't for this forum I would have believed it to be constipation.
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DavidBuchan
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Come on Charlie, you can get through this
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