Unable to walk?

Lee81

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Chameleon Info:
• Your Chameleon – Veiled, we thought that is was male but closer inspection possibly female? Now approx. 8 months old and been in my care for 5 months.
• Handling – daily, he/she loves to come out. Normally finding a happy spot on top of my head.
• Feeding – between 6-8 locust every day which are gut loaded with carrots/lettuce or other veg from the fridge.
• Supplements – Beaphar Reptile Minerals.
• Watering – We spray the tank twice a day. He will drink regularly from the side and sometimes directly from the spray. We also have a fogger which is used daily.
• Fecal Description – Black and white which has a tint of yellow.

Cage Info:
• Cage Type – Glass 2ft x 2ft. This is due to be replaced today with a 4ft x 4ft wooden viv with meshing.
• Lighting – 100w heat bulb. 38 cm florescent tube. These are on between 8am and 9pm
• Temperature – are temps are controlled by thermostat. The hot spot is 83 degrees. Overnight temp is set to 72.
• Humidity – humidity is between 50-60% controlled by spray and fogger.
• Plants – No but we do have plans to introduce them to the new Viv.
• Placement – the cage is (at present) waist height in the front room.
• Location – Lancashire, UK.

Current Problem – He/she is unable to walk correctly and laying on branches and/or floor. This seems to point towards either laying of eggs or most likely MBD. We were told that he/she was a male but after examination we have found no nobles near the feet and so suspect that he is infact a she. So maybe she is about to lay eggs as she was on the floor and a few days ago she seemed to be digging. However, she is having problems walking which I can’t seem to find if this is linked with egg laying. In the pictures she is on a sand filled container which is not normally there. We placed her in that to see if she started to dig with the view of rushing out to purchase adequate equipment.
 

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I also add that this has only started today. Only yesterday she was out climbing around on my hands.
 
Looks like a very gravid female to me.
She may be egg-bound.
If she is digging, give her a bucket of damp dirt to digg in and give her total privacy, like cover the cage with something.
They will not want to lay if they think a potential preditor is about.
 
Thank you :D

I've just had the pet shop man round. He has said that he has never encountered anything like this. She has a strong grip, tail works, eating, drinking, pooing, looking around. It is just her legs that are not functioning correctly.

Perhaps she has fallen and banged her head? which has led to concussion. The wife has gone out for a bin and sand. We will put her in that to see if she is gravid. How long will it take for her to do her business?
 
You may want to leave her alone all day, but I would try to take a sneak
peak from time to time to make sure she is okay.
 
Hi! I agree you have a female, most likely with infertile eggs to lay. If she can't walk she can't dig. Get a big bucket for her and fill it with moist sand or soil or a mix. Dig her a big deep long tunnel and leave her alone! If she doesn't start to show signs of laying you need a vet ASAP or she may become egg bound and die! Here are some links to help you :)
https://www.chameleonforums.com/laying-bin-set-up-educational-video-77225/

https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/jannb/345-egg-laying-laying-bin.html
 
Hi welcome to the forum. I can't help thinking there could be other things going on here. The beaphar reptile minerals, I have googled it and can't find much info on it. Does it have d3 in it, or is it plain?
 
Hi welcome to the forum. I can't help thinking there could be other things going on here. The beaphar reptile minerals, I have googled it and can't find much info on it. Does it have d3 in it, or is it plain?

Just took a closer look at the pic. I see some swelling in the face and head,
so I would agree that if she does not lay very soon, take her to a vet ASAP.
 
Hello, I am sorry to hear about your cham.

1.) You are going to want to cut down on her food intake significantly. Overfeeding an adult female can significantly shorten her life by increasing egg production.

2.) Is your flourescent tube a UVB light?
 
We have a dustbin that we are going to fill for her.

The minerals say that they are for Chameleons. What is D3?
 
We have a dustbin that we are going to fill for her.

The minerals say that they are for Chameleons. What is D3?

Vitamin D3 is a vital nutrient that has to be supplemented in a very regimented way. You should be dusting the feeders with plain calcium for every feeding (which at this age should be every other day) and dusting with calcium+D3 twice a month.

D3 must be present in their system in order for them to utilize calcium. Without D3, they are unable to absorb calcium and will develop MBD.
 
The swelling around her cheeks and casque is probably fat deposits due to her being over fed. I've not heard of that supplement but she definately does not appear to have mbd or swelling of the joints. She does appear to have something going on with her eye though. I think it's vet time!
 
Sorry Deaddhd I missed you there.

ok we will cut her food intake down. b) yep its a UVB light. I will get some D3 straight away.

Her eye has been an ongoing problem. It enlarges until a gunk is ejected through the eye. This process happens about once a month. the pet shop has said that this can not be a major problem to her as she can still see and causes little distress. But, I do agree it is a problem that needs correcting.

The main problem I have is that the local vet is at least 1 hour away (depending on traffic). What is the best way to transport her there? She is know in a bin with sand and we dug a tunnel for her. Should I leave her there for 15 hours and if no movement then off to the vets?

Thank you all for the help we would be lost without it.
 
If her health is not deteriorating you could take a chance and leave her until tomorrow. When I take my girl to the vet I get a bendable branch and a fake spray of leaves and place them in a large cricket keeper. Then I put her on the branch, quite safe and stable. I really hope your girl is ok!

P.s. that sounds like an eye infection. It can be fixed with antibiotics and a saline flush or two, the vet will help you with that. If its not treated she could easily go blind in that eye. Pet stores are not the best at advice usually.
 
A little update. Over the last 2 hours she has slowly backed into the hole. She is about half way in now, so fingers crossed.
 
Hello, welcome to the forum :) She is definitely a pretty little girl, I would also leave her to lay before taking her anywhere. The laying bin info that AngieL posted is great advice, and once that's done she'll be tired and thirsty so give good long mistings and plenty of food with extra plain calcium powder (no D3). I also would leave the vet for a few days, the laying will hopefully follow its natural course and then you can get the eye thing sorted. It might be caused by a vitamin issue or an infection.
She does need to cut down on her food afterwards though, the females are always the greediest (in my experience :)). Here is a great all-round caresheet I recommend to everyone here with Veileds (feeding quantities advice on page 2) - https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/chameleonsinmyhouse/395-veiled-chameleon-care-sheet.html
 
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