Two New Veiled.

Hydrawxide

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I have stuck my nose in a ton of books and went through dozens of sites preparing me for these two little ones but find that opinions vary and often times information doesn't always add up or seem remotely as 'okay' as it should so I decided to jump on here and hopefully obtain some information from experience cham owners for the sake of personal experience which, in most cases, is more valuable than what we can read in any book. Especially given the circumstances of my current situation.

They were craigslist babies and, as such, I was expecting there to be a 'catch' of some sort. At $70 bucks for a pair that were probably the size of legos(if not just a bit bigger), I was well prepared to take on the potential of purchasing difficult babies. Now! I took the precaution of choosing the fatty babies out of the massive clutch but my little male, from the start, seemed a bit tired. Got them home and placed them in a temporary container where I kept it plenty warm and misted it frequently throughout the day. They both were/are fantastic eaters but the boy continued to be a bit lacking. He was always a bit lighter in weight, seemed to tuck himself away with closed eyes or just other small things that had me concerned, although they always maintained a fantastic green color save for when I pulled them out to swap out the rag I was using in their temporary tote when they got a little spotty.

Once I was sure it was safe enough to move them into a larger enclosure and I was satisfied that they were eating and drinking plenty, I did so. They seemed to enjoy the space apart and the various areas to climb, etc. They went through a shed with me that had me absolutely delighted(since that usually means you're doing something right) and from there things continued on as well as I'd hope. I started noticing that the little boy started favoring the upside down position, hanging from his back legs and using his tail as a support. I read on various sites that this was bad and it had me in a panic and I went back to re-setting everything from my humidity to the temperatures trying to make them a bit more constant, etc. I keep them at them at about 80-90(averaging about 85) during the day and try to keep them at about 65 at night. Everything was as it should have been, or so I figured.

Then, last night I woke up at about 3 AM with a bit of heartburn and came out to find that the timer on my lights wasn't working. I don't know how long it hadn't been turning off their 'day' light but it wasn't. I can only think that when I went back in to reset everything I screwed up somewhere and they had about a week of constant daylight. I've got that all rectified now but I suppose I'm just worried about how forgiving these little ones can be with such a stupid error on my part. I assume it's why my little boy started seeming so stressed out and I'm worried, as any pet parent would be, that mistake like that might be the end of my little troopers. What do you all think?

They are still eating as ravenously as to be expected. My boy has taken on a more tan-ish color but again I'm assuming that was from the stress of the light and up until then he'd been that same bright green. They still drink and are going potty so I suspect that they haven't given up hope completely! :p

And as for night time temperatures; there are varying opinions on this. Is 65 considered too cold for the chams? It's a gradual drop and likely doesn't hit that low until a few good hours into the night so it's not like it's an immediate chill.

Any opinions help greatly!

Thank you all!
 
Most likely the fact that they have not had a night time & so no proper rest, is what has been stressing them. If they are eating & drinking & are active, & have total darkness at night now, they should now be ok. I have kept veileds down into the 40f mark at night, during the colder months.
Personally i would keep them individually, even at a young age. They just seem to do much better in my experience.
 
Congrats on your new babies!

It's scary when you make mistakes as a new pet parent, but it's amazing to see how resilient they can be when accidents do happen! I'm glad to hear that you've been doing your research and keeping a close eye on them in their time of transition. I would guess that if a cham were put in 24/7 sunlight it would seek shade from leaves, and sleep there when it's tired enough, although I can't imagine that being too restful. I wouldn't worry too much unless he continues to have problems. Mid 60's is fine for nighttime, the drop in temp is supposedly good for their immune system. Mine has never had health problems (knock on wood) and our house is usually in the 60 degree range at night. Hope this helps!

Sarah
 
I have stuck my nose in a ton of books and went through dozens of sites preparing me for these two little ones but find that opinions vary and often times information doesn't always add up or seem remotely as 'okay' as it should so I decided to jump on here and hopefully obtain some information from experience cham owners for the sake of personal experience which, in most cases, is more valuable than what we can read in any book. Especially given the circumstances of my current situation.

They were craigslist babies and, as such, I was expecting there to be a 'catch' of some sort. At $70 bucks for a pair that were probably the size of legos(if not just a bit bigger), I was well prepared to take on the potential of purchasing difficult babies. Now! I took the precaution of choosing the fatty babies out of the massive clutch but my little male, from the start, seemed a bit tired. Got them home and placed them in a temporary container where I kept it plenty warm and misted it frequently throughout the day. They both were/are fantastic eaters but the boy continued to be a bit lacking. He was always a bit lighter in weight, seemed to tuck himself away with closed eyes or just other small things that had me concerned, although they always maintained a fantastic green color save for when I pulled them out to swap out the rag I was using in their temporary tote when they got a little spotty.

Once I was sure it was safe enough to move them into a larger enclosure and I was satisfied that they were eating and drinking plenty, I did so. They seemed to enjoy the space apart and the various areas to climb, etc. They went through a shed with me that had me absolutely delighted(since that usually means you're doing something right) and from there things continued on as well as I'd hope. I started noticing that the little boy started favoring the upside down position, hanging from his back legs and using his tail as a support. I read on various sites that this was bad and it had me in a panic and I went back to re-setting everything from my humidity to the temperatures trying to make them a bit more constant, etc. I keep them at them at about 80-90(averaging about 85) during the day and try to keep them at about 65 at night. Everything was as it should have been, or so I figured.

Then, last night I woke up at about 3 AM with a bit of heartburn and came out to find that the timer on my lights wasn't working. I don't know how long it hadn't been turning off their 'day' light but it wasn't. I can only think that when I went back in to reset everything I screwed up somewhere and they had about a week of constant daylight. I've got that all rectified now but I suppose I'm just worried about how forgiving these little ones can be with such a stupid error on my part. I assume it's why my little boy started seeming so stressed out and I'm worried, as any pet parent would be, that mistake like that might be the end of my little troopers. What do you all think?

They are still eating as ravenously as to be expected. My boy has taken on a more tan-ish color but again I'm assuming that was from the stress of the light and up until then he'd been that same bright green. They still drink and are going potty so I suspect that they haven't given up hope completely! :p

And as for night time temperatures; there are varying opinions on this. Is 65 considered too cold for the chams? It's a gradual drop and likely doesn't hit that low until a few good hours into the night so it's not like it's an immediate chill.

Any opinions help greatly!

Thank you all!

That nighttime temp is fine.
 
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